Q-Bert Multigame Kit

Jrok's is making a JAMMA pcb that will be all the vertical Mylstar/Gottlieb games in one like his Multi-WMS. I am sure the price point for that will be around the same as the WMS one. This is going to be the way to go in the future imo.

This would be the one to buy - I have every bit of confidence in Jroks products. Not like you'll get any support on Cowgills model but Doyle is still around and he is always very helpful and it goes without saying solid product.
 
Wow! there we have the reason they didn't sell.....$175. Jeez.

I can't see it being worth that much.

I guess this is my week to get my balls busted.......

They sold okay when you consider the relatively limited Q*bert ownership, and the guys that bought them seemed to like them very well.

Gottlieb hardware and code is tough to work with, Clay found out the same thing, and at the end of the day you're putting forth a lot of effort for a product that has a limited audience. That is the reason for the blanking between games that isn't flawless and can't be without adding lots of hardware and code to an already price sensitive situation.

Consider two titles had never seen wide release for Q*bert hardware (7-Eleven and Tylz), and that 7-Eleven may have never been discovered if not for this project and Tylz was recovered and restored from an auction pile of boards.

Now I'll ask you- does the guy selling overlays for $45 bucks a pop deserve his margin for a little adhesive and ink; does the wedding photographer deserve his margin for a little film; and finally does the guy making multi kits deserve his margin for a few chips and parts?

The fact is the margins are much greater for JAMMA adaptors and artwork than ANY multi kit. Nobody makes multi kits out of profit motivation, there is simply too much time in development and post sale support to achieve motivation by dollars alone.

Personally I enjoy the extra communication and relationships with other collectors that have grown out of making a few kits- that's the bottom line for me. If not for past projects, I would have never met the interesting cast of characters that collect arcade games along with many I now count as friends.
 
Thanks Mike,
I think if you look back through the post there are more people on your side than against. Some folks will always be cheap or just never get it. Hopefully there are enough of us who appreciate the work you and folks like you do to keep you motivated enough to continue with great projects such as this one. I for one truly appreciate and enjoy the kits you have worked on and hope to see others in the future.
 
I guess this is my week to get my balls busted.......

They sold okay when you consider the relatively limited Q*bert ownership, and the guys that bought them seemed to like them very well.

Gottlieb hardware and code is tough to work with, Clay found out the same thing, and at the end of the day you're putting forth a lot of effort for a product that has a limited audience. That is the reason for the blanking between games that isn't flawless and can't be without adding lots of hardware and code to an already price sensitive situation.

Consider two titles had never seen wide release for Q*bert hardware (7-Eleven and Tylz), and that 7-Eleven may have never been discovered if not for this project and Tylz was recovered and restored from an auction pile of boards.

Now I'll ask you- does the guy selling overlays for $45 bucks a pop deserve his margin for a little adhesive and ink; does the wedding photographer deserve his margin for a little film; and finally does the guy making multi kits deserve his margin for a few chips and parts?

The fact is the margins are much greater for JAMMA adaptors and artwork than ANY multi kit. Nobody makes multi kits out of profit motivation, there is simply too much time in development and post sale support to achieve motivation by dollars alone.

Personally I enjoy the extra communication and relationships with other collectors that have grown out of making a few kits- that's the bottom line for me. If not for past projects, I would have never met the interesting cast of characters that collect arcade games along with many I now count as friends.

Mike,

I just wanted to chime in. I bought an 8-in-1 from you and love it. You went above and beyond when I was having some issues (which ended up being my board, not the multigame). I am happy with the $ I paid for your board.
 
I guess this is my week to get my balls busted.......

They sold okay when you consider the relatively limited Q*bert ownership, and the guys that bought them seemed to like them very well.

Gottlieb hardware and code is tough to work with, Clay found out the same thing, and at the end of the day you're putting forth a lot of effort for a product that has a limited audience. That is the reason for the blanking between games that isn't flawless and can't be without adding lots of hardware and code to an already price sensitive situation.

Consider two titles had never seen wide release for Q*bert hardware (7-Eleven and Tylz), and that 7-Eleven may have never been discovered if not for this project and Tylz was recovered and restored from an auction pile of boards.

Now I'll ask you- does the guy selling overlays for $45 bucks a pop deserve his margin for a little adhesive and ink; does the wedding photographer deserve his margin for a little film; and finally does the guy making multi kits deserve his margin for a few chips and parts?

The fact is the margins are much greater for JAMMA adaptors and artwork than ANY multi kit. Nobody makes multi kits out of profit motivation, there is simply too much time in development and post sale support to achieve motivation by dollars alone.

Personally I enjoy the extra communication and relationships with other collectors that have grown out of making a few kits- that's the bottom line for me. If not for past projects, I would have never met the interesting cast of characters that collect arcade games along with many I now count as friends.


Yeah man, dont let one cheap bast'id get you down. The kit is sweet and well worth the cash.
 
For the record, I have no problem with the $ for the kit. It's well worth every penny. I would just like to be able to save my Cubes high scores.
 
Yeah man, dont let one cheap bast'id get you down. The kit is sweet and well worth the cash.

Wow! I actually find this to be very funny.
This forum offers tons of advice and information from very helpful and knowledgable people.
It has been absolutely invaluable to me and helps me with my love for the hobby. I grew up in it and it is part of me. However, whenever I make an attempt to sell a machine here I am not successful as people constantly complain that the prices are too high, and this is in public on the forum in the for sale thread and not in private messaging. I see this time and time again.

So i consider myself to be a bit of a spender, I paid kind of high for my Qbert that I bought from a member of THIS FORUM, I am now trying to upgrade it from people ON THIS FORUM.

I'm sorry, am I allowed to have an opinion and not get FLAMED for it?

Seems not to be the case.

Thanks for the help all of you that answered my questions and managed to not tear me to shreds publicly for voicing an opinion.
 
I guess this is my week to get my balls busted.......

They sold okay when you consider the relatively limited Q*bert ownership, and the guys that bought them seemed to like them very well.

Gottlieb hardware and code is tough to work with, Clay found out the same thing, and at the end of the day you're putting forth a lot of effort for a product that has a limited audience. That is the reason for the blanking between games that isn't flawless and can't be without adding lots of hardware and code to an already price sensitive situation.

Consider two titles had never seen wide release for Q*bert hardware (7-Eleven and Tylz), and that 7-Eleven may have never been discovered if not for this project and Tylz was recovered and restored from an auction pile of boards.

Now I'll ask you- does the guy selling overlays for $45 bucks a pop deserve his margin for a little adhesive and ink; does the wedding photographer deserve his margin for a little film; and finally does the guy making multi kits deserve his margin for a few chips and parts?

The fact is the margins are much greater for JAMMA adaptors and artwork than ANY multi kit. Nobody makes multi kits out of profit motivation, there is simply too much time in development and post sale support to achieve motivation by dollars alone.

Personally I enjoy the extra communication and relationships with other collectors that have grown out of making a few kits- that's the bottom line for me. If not for past projects, I would have never met the interesting cast of characters that collect arcade games along with many I now count as friends.
Well said, Mike. I could hear the inspirational music playing in the background and I almost shed a tear. :)

Just teazing.... I like Mike's kits too, but also know he spends a ton of time on them (so does Widel).

Scott C.
 
I'm sorry, am I allowed to have an opinion and not get FLAMED for it?

Seems not to be the case.

Thanks for the help all of you that answered my questions and managed to not tear me to shreds publicly for voicing an opinion.

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Just kidding! I don't want anyone to feel ostracized for their opinion, and you're correct that you're entitled to share it. Personally your tone came across a bit strong, but let's chalk that up to the limitations of the written word.

If you'd like to PM me about a kit, I can round up the parts to build one right after I finish the Exidy 440 Multi project.
 
Wow! I actually find this to be very funny.
This forum offers tons of advice and information from very helpful and knowledgable people.
It has been absolutely invaluable to me and helps me with my love for the hobby. I grew up in it and it is part of me. However, whenever I make an attempt to sell a machine here I am not successful as people constantly complain that the prices are too high, and this is in public on the forum in the for sale thread and not in private messaging. I see this time and time again.

So i consider myself to be a bit of a spender, I paid kind of high for my Qbert that I bought from a member of THIS FORUM, I am now trying to upgrade it from people ON THIS FORUM.

I'm sorry, am I allowed to have an opinion and not get FLAMED for it?

Seems not to be the case.

Thanks for the help all of you that answered my questions and managed to not tear me to shreds publicly for voicing an opinion.

Hey man, opinions go both ways. You call a sweet multi crazy expensive, you open yourself up to people calling ya a cheap bast'id. If you give it, you gotta take it. Cmon now. Buck up camper we're all friends here.
 
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