I can't beat that damn pizza pasta guy. So, yeah, I suck at Punch-Out!!
See what happens when you own 40 DIFFERENT games?
Punchout or DKjr?
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See what happens when you own 40 DIFFERENT games?
stealthie
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Punch Out cause the cabinet is so badass and its a much better game.
And they made the 3rd Super Macho Man impossible, but it does make me coming back.
And they made the 3rd Super Macho Man impossible, but it does make me coming back.
MaximRecoil
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He's difficult, but not impossible. I've gotten as high as the 11th Super Macho Man. He can go into impossible mode though, which I've seen him do once. He started his spinning punch routine early in the round and didn't stop until there were only a few seconds left on the clock, which of course didn't leave even remotely enough time to beat him. I consider that cheating BTW, if you're listening Genyo Takeda (lol).
My neighbor.
Go with Punch Out....far better replay value and its a specimen of an arcade game once restored. Talk to Van Burnham, they have the restoration of PO down pretty well, especially the right process and finish for the cabinet.
Come to think of it, my Punch-Out restore was pretty memorable. I ripped the thing completely apart. Phetty-cakes, if you need some Punch-Out restoration motivation, you've come to the right place.
Full gallery here:
http://www.johnsarcade.com/nintendo_punch_out_arcade.php
Full gallery here:
http://www.johnsarcade.com/nintendo_punch_out_arcade.php
MaximRecoil
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Who is Van Burnham, and what is the correct finish for the cabinet?
Gamer girl in the arcade and console world...she also wrote the book "Supercade". Good friend and a freak of the industry for sure. She's on KLOV...
I sold her my PO and she's perfected the method of duplicating the side finish. It's way beyond just painting black with clear coat like many just do. I don't recall the method to her madness but it's pretty damn close to original.
Perhaps she'll chime in.
pookdolie
Permanently Banned for excessive trolling.
Punch-Out!!
And, for anyone who finds it hard to play: I did, too. Pizza Pasta kicked my butt for years.
After a half-hour of research on the internet, I went from the Italian killing me to 500K pts on one credit. I also can beat Super Macho Man twice on Super Punch-Out!! It's not too hard once you know how -
1. Shake off the fatigue (your fingers and hands)
2. Patterns, patterns, patterns
3. If you lose count / get lost in the pattern, don't panic. You may get another chance...
EDIT: Oops - just saw you were done. Nice jab - er, job!
And, for anyone who finds it hard to play: I did, too. Pizza Pasta kicked my butt for years.
After a half-hour of research on the internet, I went from the Italian killing me to 500K pts on one credit. I also can beat Super Macho Man twice on Super Punch-Out!! It's not too hard once you know how -
1. Shake off the fatigue (your fingers and hands)
2. Patterns, patterns, patterns
3. If you lose count / get lost in the pattern, don't panic. You may get another chance...
EDIT: Oops - just saw you were done. Nice jab - er, job!
MaximRecoil
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I'd like to see that.
I know. Punch-Out, and most Nintendo cabinets in general have a unique finish. Someone on RGVAC once said it was baked on, which seems about right to me. I've never come across any solid information about the details of the original finish though. It is the reason I have left the original finish on my Super Punch-Out. It isn't in mint condition, but it isn't bad, and there's no known way to get it back once it's gone.
MaximRecoil
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No, it isn't laminate at all. It definitely did not start out as a solid sheet of anything. I will grant that maybe some Nintendo cabinets were laminated (because I've heard the claim so often, though I've yet to see any actual proof), but my Punch-Out and Popeye cabinets certainly weren't. The finish on both of them is like a paint, but more flexible (but still able to break).
This is from the Popeye cabinet:
It is so thin that the impression from the irregularities in the plywood remains in it, yet it is more flexible/rubbery than paint, but not nearly as flexible as say vinyl sheet, because it will actually break if you fold it. And it obviously isn't high-pressure laminate (AKA: Formica), nor even remotely similar.
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It's alien technology.
MaximRecoil
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It's alien technology.
I think it was applied as a liquid and then baked, e.g.:
Maybe something like that.
kjeffery
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Punch out all the way!!!!
OP
OP
Phetishboy
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Exactly. I've got samples in little baggies from both my Mario Bros and Dk's. The laminate argument gets old. It's hard to convince people who don't know any better. I've torn down 7 of these Nintendo cabs. Not one had laminate on them. I do admit that they had to have added plastic or PVC to the 'Enamel' mixture, as sanding it will give you a burnt plastic smell and causes horrible blue or orange dust up your nose for weeks afterward.No, it isn't laminate at all. It definitely did not start out as a solid sheet of anything. I will grant that maybe some Nintendo cabinets were laminated (because I've heard the claim so often, though I've yet to see any actual proof), but my Punch-Out and Popeye cabinets certainly weren't. The finish on both of them is like a paint, but more flexible (but still able to break).
This is from the Popeye cabinet:
It is so thin that the impression from the irregularities in the plywood remains in it, yet it is more flexible/rubbery than paint, but not nearly as flexible as say vinyl sheet, because it will actually break if you fold it. And it obviously isn't high-pressure laminate (AKA: Formica), nor even remotely similar.
Phet, I think it is great that you are finally getting into these Nintendo cabinets. They are the best around. I suggest collecting and restoring more than a few. They are that good.
I agree that the Nintendo finish is something magical. It's almost cosmic. So, when I was restoring my DK JR. I decided to leave it alone and only touch up the major flaws in the cabinet. I even left the original side art because original is > repro.
If you need DK JR. inspiration, here's a great place to start:
http://www.johnsarcade.com/donkey_kong_junior_restore.php
I agree that the Nintendo finish is something magical. It's almost cosmic. So, when I was restoring my DK JR. I decided to leave it alone and only touch up the major flaws in the cabinet. I even left the original side art because original is > repro.
If you need DK JR. inspiration, here's a great place to start:
http://www.johnsarcade.com/donkey_kong_junior_restore.php
MaximRecoil
Well-known member
Yeah, which is what makes me suspect liquid melamine resin (which is a thermosetting plastic). It would be the same idea as melamine-faced boards that you can buy, except, instead of being applied in thin sheets pressed onto the board, it would have been applied in liquid form and baked. The Nintendo finish had to have been applied as a liquid, because it is not flexible enough to have ever been in sheet form.
To the people who claim the Nintendo finish is a laminate, I have asked for pictures of it being pulled off in a big single sheet, but have yet to see any.
