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I acquired a Punch-Out recently and the cab needs to be restored. I was trying to figure out which way to go and I've think I've decided on going with vinyl.

I know the Nintendos have a specific look and gloss level. I have a couple options I've narrowed down. The winner will come down to price as they're pretty similar.

Avery Black Blockout
SC 900-152-S

Arlon Series 5570 Blockout Film
122 Black

They both have that dull gloss. My cab was rolled on enamel, so I don't have the original gloss to compare, but very close to what I recall my DK being.
 

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Vinyl sucks and will shrink over time, use laminate, vertical grade from decotone dealer nearest you and you will forever be happy you did.
 
Vinyl sucks and will shrink over time, use laminate, vertical grade from decotone dealer nearest you and you will forever be happy you did.

I installed matte white on my Paperboy before applying side art and I was impressed with how well it cam out. Shrinkage is pretty minor. You wrap the edges it's not going anywhere.

Plus, if the edges are peeking out, it's just playing going to bug me. We use vertical grade here at work so I know it's much thinner than the standard grade.

I still keep thinking of screwing up the routing in the speaker grille area and having a nice notch in there.

That being said I'm not going to start for a bit, so I still have time to change my mind. :)
 
I'm trying to figure out what to do with mine. I won't be doing vinyl but it's a really frustrating topic just like Galaxian.

I don't feel like dealing with paint and I'm not sure it would come out to my satisfaction.

Those particular vinyls look better than the laminates I've seen and is swaying me in that direction. I have Wilson Art, Nevamar, and Formica laminate swatches at work and didn't really see anything that was doing it for me.

That being said, doing anything for these cabs is OK in my book whatever you do. The Punch-Outs seem to have really gotten beat up over the years.
 
Vinyl sucks and will shrink over time, use laminate, vertical grade from decotone dealer nearest you and you will forever be happy you did.



Vinyl has its cons, but shrinkage doesn't have to be a high concern. The OP was particularly interested in the overall sheen and I have come across a laminate with a close match and vertical has less choices for sheen. Do you have a comparison pic(not a small pic from far away)of the original sheen next to the laminate you recommend? I've got a vinyl that is a close match but haven't put it on yet and would be willing to switch
If a laminate solution is available.
 
Right... I just have a sign shop at my fingertips full of vinyl. I just prefer to go a different direction but I don't think you're making a wrong choice or anything. I wouldn't personally worry about shrinkage.
 
Vinyl has its cons, but shrinkage doesn't have to be a high concern. The OP was particularly interested in the overall sheen and I have come across a laminate with a close match and vertical has less choices for sheen. Do you have a comparison pic(not a small pic from far away)of the original sheen next to the laminate you recommend? I've got a vinyl that is a close match but haven't put it on yet and would be willing to switch
If a laminate solution is available.

I can try and snap a pic tomorrow. I have an original mint cab right beside my laminated one. If you drag your finger nail on vinyl it will mark it or even gouge it. I personally think it for signs and not even as durable as side art. I really dont understand this search for a perfect match look at the huge sacrifice of longevity and durability when laminate is close. Given all our games are in a dim lit game room and not many people have another right beside to compare I'm lost in the effort.
Oh and shrinkage ... look at the edge of the paper its on a few months after you buy it , its already shrinking just sitting there. I can snap you pics of that also . Look at vinyl signs on cars with any age, the dirty edge around the lettering is glue , where the vinyl used to be before it shrank....
 
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I'm not sure a car in the direct sunlight and weather is a great comparison on the vinyl thing. And even then the vinyl is likely really old, defective, or cheap.

I'd like to know good matches on the laminate though. And paint. Exploring options...
 
I can try and snap a pic tomorrow. I have an original mint cab right beside my laminated one. If you drag your finger nail on vinyl it will mark it or even gouge it. I personally think it for signs and not even as durable as side art. I really dont understand this search for a perfect match look at the huge sacrifice of longevity and durability when laminate is close. Given all our games are in a dim lit game room and not many people have another right beside to compare I'm lost in the effort.
Oh and shrinkage ... look at the edge of the paper its on a few months after you buy it , its already shrinking just sitting there. I can snap you pics of that also . Look at vinyl signs on cars with any age, the dirty edge around the lettering is glue , where the vinyl used to be before it shrank....



I tend to bite my fingernails so I shouldn't have to worry about scratching my games with them. I've never played my games with dim lights or the lights off as well.
 
I'm not sure a car in the direct sunlight and weather is a great comparison on the vinyl thing. And even then the vinyl is likely really old, defective, or cheap.

I'd like to know good matches on the laminate though. And paint. Exploring options...

For paint, Rustoleum Satin Black is a good choice. I did my Punch-Out that way and it covered well.
 
Once you go Black.........laminate that is, you don't go back.

Ask the buyer of my Punchout! how good it looks.

Vinyl would not be wise. Hard to put on, not durable, and easy to ruin the edges.

Go laminate my friend and join the revolution!!
 
I can try and snap a pic tomorrow. I have an original mint cab right beside my laminated one. If you drag your finger nail on vinyl it will mark it or even gouge it. I personally think it for signs and not even as durable as side art. I really dont understand this search for a perfect match look at the huge sacrifice of longevity and durability when laminate is close. Given all our games are in a dim lit game room and not many people have another right beside to compare I'm lost in the effort.
Oh and shrinkage ... look at the edge of the paper its on a few months after you buy it , its already shrinking just sitting there. I can snap you pics of that also . Look at vinyl signs on cars with any age, the dirty edge around the lettering is glue , where the vinyl used to be before it shrank....

You're totally right with that. The matte blacks are pretty susceptible to scratching. If that's all I had to choose from, I wouldn't bother. Those two options of mine seem to be pretty durable with regard to that.

Vinyl does shrink, but if you wrap the edges, it doesn't come into play. Now, if you were trimming flush with an Xacto, yeah. You'd probably see a good 1/16" gap all the way around. I see it at work all thew time.
 
Once you go Black.........laminate that is, you don't go back.

Ask the buyer of my Punchout! how good it looks.

Vinyl would not be wise. Hard to put on, not durable, and easy to ruin the edges.

Go laminate my friend and join the revolution!!

I could still be convinced. What about the edges peeking? Does the true-flat molding cover that?
 
I could still be convinced. What about the edges peeking? Does the true-flat molding cover that?

If you look from 2" away with reading glasses on you might see a smidgen. I just ran a sharpi on the edge before putting on the tmolding and nothing was ever visible. Even without the sharpie no-one would see anything, but I was like you and wanted to make sure. I am super OCD
 
If you look from 2" away with reading glasses on you might see a smidgen. I just ran a sharpi on the edge before putting on the tmolding and nothing was ever visible. Even without the sharpie no-one would see anything, but I was like you and wanted to make sure. I am super OCD



How'd you manage the speaker grille slots? Still afraid about notching those if I went that route.

It's funny, because I did this stuff for a living many years ago. Worked for a small shop making cabs for video poker and arcade machines.
 
Once you go Black.........laminate that is, you don't go back.

Ask the buyer of my Punchout! how good it looks.

Vinyl would not be wise. Hard to put on, not durable, and easy to ruin the edges.

Go laminate my friend and join the revolution!!

Very smart man, he knows the deal! I wont waste another key stroke on this one. There simply is no comparision . Glossy vinyl will show every imperfection there is on the surface, can you imagine...
Wrapped vinyl around the corner will let go in less than a year and be round at the edge its not designed to stay that way. I have a printer, laminator and many plotters and have for many years. All our vans are wrapped by us with the best wrap on the market and it still lets go when its bent over even with primer 94 over time.
 
How'd you manage the speaker grille slots? Still afraid about notching those if I went that route.

It's funny, because I did this stuff for a living many years ago. Worked for a small shop making cabs for video poker and arcade machines.


From behind using a 1/8" bit I drill a hole equal distance from the edge of each speaker slot, so right smack in the middle of each slot. Then I go to the front and drill a 5/16" hole through that hole.

Then from the front I use a 1/4" flush trim router bit and route it.

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http://www.homedepot.com/p/Diablo-3-8-in-x-1-4-in-Carbide-Flush-Trimmer-Router-Bit-DR64100/100660703
 
How'd you manage the speaker grille slots? Still afraid about notching those if I went that route.

It's funny, because I did this stuff for a living many years ago. Worked for a small shop making cabs for video poker and arcade machines.

All speaker grilles routered out with a 1/4" bit after predilling the wholes from behind. All my nintendo cabs are laminate inside and out for that matter except my mint PO. Most are running true flat t as well. My second PO is lamiated as well...

check my felix grill here
https://forums.arcade-museum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=228627&d=1436579952
https://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=348131True flat on same cab
https://forums.arcade-museum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=228626&d=1436579939
WARNING, not all nintendo cabs are the same thickness and I dont mean partical board vs plywood. I have found 4 variations on the cab design and thickness myself. There are likely more. I have true flat on 3 of them though
 

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