prototype Sinistar ROMs?

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What are the difference between these and the shipped ROMs? I hear that it may be easier on level three on and on than what is shipped, but I suck enough that I hardly get past the first level. :)
 
I've played it in MAME and it is noticeably ... "easier"? Not sure if that's the right term. Given I am not using a 49-position joystick on my MAME cab, I am not fully experiencing the game as it should be played. But I can survive many more waves on Prototype than I can ever survive on regular Sinistar. Gotta love those techniques they came up with for separating people from their quarters back in the day, eh?
 
I've played it in MAME and it is noticeably ... "easier"? Not sure if that's the right term. Given I am not using a 49-position joystick on my MAME cab, I am not fully experiencing the game as it should be played. But I can survive many more waves on Prototype than I can ever survive on regular Sinistar. Gotta love those techniques they came up with for separating people from their quarters back in the day, eh?

Awesome. That's exactly what I wanted to know. Thanks!
 
What are the difference between these and the shipped ROMs? I hear that it may be easier on level three on and on than what is shipped, but I suck enough that I hardly get past the first level. :)

The attract mode screen is different and the rocks put out substantially more crystals.

I have a Sinistar that shipped with the proto roms. These are the roms that were used in the AMOA to showcase the game.
 
From what I understand there are the prototype ROMS and the AMOA roms. The AMOA are the ones with the different attract mode made specifically for the show. The prototype one are the ones the game designers preferred, but the execs at Williams told them to make the game harder because the ops were complaining on how long the games were lasting. The harder roms are the ones that were released to the public. The game designers felt that the prototype roms were the best version of the game. Supposedly one of the designers has the only known copy of these ROMS somewhere in his house, but of course that is an internet legend. I'm sure he will find them about the same time that OJ finds the real killer.
 
LOL

Talk to James?

Emailed him last night.

I get the feeling that he's either tweaked the ROMs already or is using the AMOA ROMs since it seems like the crystals come out pretty fast with his board.

I think he also tweaked the ROMs for the non-Defender games to allow more than 5 entries (or were there real versions that had this feature?) I'd like to revert that back so that one guy at work that is really good at all these games doesn't dominate the scoreboard. :) I'm planning on restoring a bombed out Defender cab so that I can have a jrok machine at work.

One of these days I'll actually buy a ROM burner. . . :)
 
There was a set of mods published several years ago that defeated the 5 game limit on most of the Willimas games. You just needed to find the spot in the code. Call it code reuse, but we all stole that code and used it, which is why it is so easy to find in all the Williams games. :D

ken
 
There was a set of mods published several years ago that defeated the 5 game limit on most of the Willimas games. You just needed to find the spot in the code. Call it code reuse, but we all stole that code and used it, which is why it is so easy to find in all the Williams games. :D

ken

Sweet. . need to get off my cheap ass and buy a ROM burner so that I can do this. I want to apply the diff for fixing the cut scene speed in fast pac too in the 4-in-1 ROMs.
 
Sweet. . need to get off my cheap ass and buy a ROM burner so that I can do this. I want to apply the diff for fixing the cut scene speed in fast pac too in the 4-in-1 ROMs.

I am probably buying a new burner soon. I can sell you my old one. In the meantime, I will happily burn any chips you need.
 
I am probably buying a new burner soon. I can sell you my old one. In the meantime, I will happily burn any chips you need.

I'm super-lazy with using anything that isn't USB. Is your old one USB or parallel port? If it's parallel, I may just get a Willem sometime. I don't think I have a machine with a working parallel port at this point.
 
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