Price Check: Spiderman (Stern)

[gabesdad1981]

wow did that last reply seem a little shady or what??????????that would be like me selling a car to some guy for cash and never telling the carlot owner...

 

[taylor34]

I was referring to IPDB's top 10 simply because it's a collection/poll world wide and not RGP focused like Treasure coves. I don't feel price should be a factor because most new games prices are just as much if not more than a lot of the top 10. Clearly one of the arguments of all times is that MM isn't worth XXX amount of dollars.
Let me take nothing away from Spidey as it's a great game. I just don't see it reaching the all time greatness list that currently most B/W titles games occupy. Time will tell the tale of course. MM hasn't sky rocketed recently, but rather steadily gained value over the last few years. But the whole "Rich guys - machine to have" I don't understand that mind set at all. Simply because a MM can be had for ~$6K to $8K. A person could either have 3-4 $2K games or 2 - $4K games .... you get the point.
How many pinheads buy NIB's? They could simply buy one MM instead of 2 NIBs. Most hard core pinheads can afford a MM, they choose not to.
I could buy one if I wanted to, but I'd personally much rather have several more additions to my current line up instead of just one addition.

The problem with the ipdb ratings is that a) a lot of Stern games go from crap to awesome from the time they're released to 6 months down the road, leaving the games with horrible ratings it's first 6 months, and b) people just throw all kinds of terrible ratings to certain games (usually non bally/williams) to fudge the ratings. Neither rating system is perfect, for a good 'snapshot of the moment view' I think that the treasure cove is better, but honestly overall the writing in the ipdb ones is what's the most valuable.

What I meant by 'rich guys' is non-pinball guys with lots of extra cash just buying games in gobs now. I know of a few guys who went out from the start and bought all of the high end games in a bunch, where before this year I hadn't seen any of that. Serious collectors? No, just guys who heard things like "TZ is the best game ever" and "MM is the holy grail of games" and went out and bought them all immediately just because of that. Kind of strange honestly. A couple of them have already sold all of their games they bought, 0 games to 10 and back to 0 in a year.

Taylor34

 

[Deadly]

That is so true. So many hyped machines out there. I'm just odd in the fact most "hyped" machines just suck for me personally. I think it's a blessing in disguise. I won;t be one of those guys who has $20K - $30 in pins

And as far as IPDB ratings - again I gotta agree. There are people whom just blast a crap rating to drop a machines rating. Not sure why the mods don;t delete 3/4 of the stupid ratings that are submitted. Such as total posts that consist of "Not for me" or "fun".

Me personally I truly believe no pin should be worth more than $4500 and I do think $6K - $8k is just stupid amounts of money to spend on one machine alone. But if a person makes a ridiculous amount of money a person they tend to forget what a dollar really is worth. I'm just thankful there's a lot more less expensive (and dare I say more fun?) games available.

 

[mrgone]

iv seen this kind of thing with other collectibles in the past. comics,sports cards etc.
they become popular for a time,people who have no interest in them at all,(other than making alot of money)buy them up fast. then they either sell them off for a profit or sit on them for too long and take a bath when the craze die's. anyone remember pogs? i saw some of those going for crazy money back in 93-94.2 years later you could not give them away. of course pinball is a different beast.pins like mm and bbb will not decrease in value much if any.however,its a buyers market and if no one is buying you have two options.one lower your asking price or two,hold on to it. for pin lovers no big deal to hold on to a pin.
for someone who is in it for the money,greed will bite them in the butt more often than not.

 

[khabbi]

iv seen this kind of thing with other collectibles in the past. comics,sports cards etc.
they become popular for a time,people who have no interest in them at all,(other than making alot of money)buy them up fast. then they either sell them off for a profit or sit on them for too long and take a bath when the craze die's. anyone remember pogs? i saw some of those going for crazy money back in 93-94.2 years later you could not give them away. of course pinball is a different beast.pins like mm and bbb will not decrease in value much if any.however,its a buyers market and if no one is buying you have two options.one lower your asking price or two,hold on to it. for pin lovers no big deal to hold on to a pin.
for someone who is in it for the money,greed will bite them in the butt more often than not.

So true about other collectibles, I've seen it also in sports stuff especially.