Price check on THE SAFE made by mci

I had one and couldn't get it working and ended up selling it.

There were two models made: One in blue and one in yellow. The yellow one is the rare one and can fetch more money.

What shape is it in? Is it working? Does it come with the tokens?

There wasn't much info out there when I had mine, and the little bit I did find showed the price range from free to $300.

Bill
 
I had one and couldn't get it working and ended up selling it.

There were two models made: One in blue and one in yellow. The yellow one is the rare one and can fetch more money.

What shape is it in? Is it working? Does it come with the tokens?

There wasn't much info out there when I had mine, and the little bit I did find showed the price range from free to $300.

Bill

Its NIB, and its the Yellow one.
 
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I had a yellow one. it was working and in good shape. I sold it to a guy who had a safe company I think in PA for I think $1k + shipping(would have to check). I think they found it listed on RGVAC like 6-8 years ago.

Actually 2 guys wanted it. I think both were in the safe industry. So I would say grab it and track down a safe related website.. If its NIB, I would go with $3k and see what happens.. maybe you can find some in the safe business and if they go to trade shows, it might make a cool booth attraction or maybe a raffle prize..
 
I'm sure there was a thread on this forum about one for sale on EBAY about 7-8 months ago...from memory it was a blue one.

The game looked like a safe, you had to get the combination right to get into it...or something??.....once again, from memory there was a BIN of $2500 on it.

It looked interesting.

"NIB".......are you serious??





john

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I had a yellow one. it was working and in good shape. I sold it to a guy who had a safe company I think in PA for I think $1k + shipping(would have to check). I think they found it listed on RGVAC like 6-8 years ago.

Actually 2 guys wanted it. I think both were in the safe industry. So I would say grab it and track down a safe related website.. If its NIB, I would go with $3k and see what happens.. maybe you can find some in the safe business and if they go to trade shows, it might make a cool booth attraction or maybe a raffle prize..

$3k?!?!? Holy crap! Even since it's NIB, there is no way it is worth that!

Keep in mind, too, that 6-8 years ago, a lot of games were getting a good 300% of what they are now. The country is still in bad shape and a LOT of prices have tanked big time. $1k 6-8 years ago is probably around $400 today. I also remember 6-8 years ago, a nice Ms. Pac was easily fetching $1200+. Not so in today's market.

There is still no guarantee that it is working, and if it's not working, they are nearly impossible to fix. Trust me! :)

But, still... NIB yellow one, I could see that fetching a good $500+.

Bill
 
Any other info on this game???

When I had mine, I scoured the Internet endlessly for MANY hours and couldn't find a thing. The only thing I was fortunate to locate was a manual from Todd at TNT. He only had the one spare, which I bought. You may also want to check with him because if I remember correctly, he has a fully working one in his showroom.

Bill
 
This game has an interesting history....I purchased perhaps 25 of them from Steve Engel at Mayfair Amusements in Ridgewood New York---most were brand new but out of the crate...we are talking maybe 20 years ago. (I also bought 20 or so new in box Airball machines--I kept the last new in box Airball fpr my home arcade). Both of these were made in 1970 and a bank got them all when company went bankrupt...I understand that Steve bought the warehouse inventory in a deal. (I also got two new in crate UBoat mechanical "sea wolf" type games.)
Because most of the Safe's did NOT work that were out of crate (perhaps returned from distributors), I junked all the non working ones--the neat thing is they came with 4 brand new pinball legs, which we kept and a few other parts. (I did offer them for free at one point to the newsgroups when we were doing various purges of the warehouse) The units that were working, we were selling from our showroom for $399 each--brand new. We had mostly yellow but there were a few blue ones. I had the machine positioned in our showroom over one of the "holes" I had cut into the showroom walls...kids loved crawling through these holes during the parties we had. We got down to just one unit perhaps ten years ago...and I decided not to sell it at all--leaving it in showroom. It had thousands of playson it---some kids would sometimes open the safe, and then throw another kids shoe into it and lock it up! (There was a "emergency access" electric key lock also). I was always surprised that some kids LOVED this thing and would play it for 15-20 minutes...there were three difficulty settings...I went from easy to medium..hard was pretty much impossible. The safe door had to be rebuilt several times from opening and closing...and the optic encoder system that had painted black bars needed repainting from rubbing off from millions of turns...but the logic board was dependable---some LEDS also needed replacement.
Anyway, two to three years ago, Fred Babrow who opened an antique arcade in New York, wanted it and offered me I thought was an incredible price to buy it...$1000...so I took it. Fred since closed his arcade due to some anti arcade law, and that machine is again out there somewhere!!
I believe I sold as many as 8 new units for $399 each and this final one for $1000. The Airball units new were selling for $800 each....last three I had, I sold on GreedBay perhaps 5-6 years ago for $1300 to $1500 each. There, you have the history of IOpen the Safe---at least locally! Todd
 
$3k?!?!? Holy crap! Even since it's NIB, there is no way it is worth that!

Keep in mind, too, that 6-8 years ago, a lot of games were getting a good 300% of what they are now. The country is still in bad shape and a LOT of prices have tanked big time. $1k 6-8 years ago is probably around $400 today. I also remember 6-8 years ago, a nice Ms. Pac was easily fetching $1200+. Not so in today's market.

There is still no guarantee that it is working, and if it's not working, they are nearly impossible to fix. Trust me! :)

But, still... NIB yellow one, I could see that fetching a good $500+.

Bill

probably not, but its not like you fine one every day.. Start high work to low.. All I can tell you it sold very quickly.. Maybe I got lucky, but I wonder what would have happened if I had it up on ebay. All it takes is 2... The guys who wanted it wanted it really bad.. #2 offered me more to sell it to him but I would not do that.. Just offering advice on a a good way to sell it.

As for what people will pay, yes, paying $1200 for a ms pac would be insane. 5 years ago I would sell a ms pac for $550-$750. Today I would sell the same ms pac for $450-$650. So I would somewhat agree common games are selling for less.

But when you are talking rare games, all bets are off. Quantums, I robots, dedicated Major havoc have not fallen that much in price. The safe is very rare. By todds story, it tells you how hard it is to find a working one. Most would have broken and people would have tossed them off their buildings..

Also just because some segments of the economy are down, does not mean the people who buy and sell safes are doing poorly. People need protection against break-ins. People who buy safes probably have money and stuff to protect..
 
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Thanks todd,
The funny thing is that I've had a airball also. My kids loved that game. I might just put a bin or best offer on it. Still not sure if I want to sell it, but I'm not going to open it either way
 
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But when you are talking rare games, all bets are off. Quantums, I robots, dedicated Major havoc have not fallen that much in price. The safe is very rare. By todds story, it tells you how hard it is to find a working one. Most would have broken and people would have tossed them off their buildings..

Now there I disagree. Rare does not equal desirable. You also cannot compare a Safe to Quantum, I Robot or Major Havoc. Those are three desirable games, and The Safe really isn't.

You can get two bidders who want game, and a game that normally sells for $500 will easily top $1000. A few years ago, A Medieval Madness pin went for about $20,000 on eBay. Average price is closer to $7000. So, just because there are two knuckleheads driving the price of a game up does not mean that the game is now magically worth that much.

Again, rare does not mean desirable which does not mean an instant, expensive price tag. No demand for a rare game and the price will tank.

Bill
 
Now there I disagree. Rare does not equal desirable. You also cannot compare a Safe to Quantum, I Robot or Major Havoc. Those are three desirable games, and The Safe really isn't.

You can get two bidders who want game, and a game that normally sells for $500 will easily top $1000. A few years ago, A Medieval Madness pin went for about $20,000 on eBay. Average price is closer to $7000. So, just because there are two knuckleheads driving the price of a game up does not mean that the game is now magically worth that much.

Again, rare does not mean desirable which does not mean an instant, expensive price tag. No demand for a rare game and the price will tank.

Bill

I would agree to the video gaming community, the safe is not a desirable game. But you can't argue its not rare. When dealing with rare, price can be whatever the seller wants. Buyes will decide if its priced right.

I don't see you offering up any proof the game is not worth more than $1k. I sold mine for that. Todd sold his last one for that. Someone posted the last one on ebay was possibly listed for $2500. So where do you put NIB at?

I would say NIB of something old and rare has to be worth 2x what a used one is worth. I think the $20k MM was NIB. So maybe 3x normal price might be a better estimate..

Back to the point.. My limited experience says the market for the safe is outside the video game community. In that circle, I would think the safe is worth more than a quantum or major havoc. Granted the market for the safe might be small at $3k, but I think its possible.
 
I would agree to the video gaming community, the safe is not a desirable game. But you can't argue its not rare. When dealing with rare, price can be whatever the seller wants. Buyes will decide if its priced right.

I don't see you offering up any proof the game is not worth more than $1k. I sold mine for that. Todd sold his last one for that. Someone posted the last one on ebay was possibly listed for $2500. So where do you put NIB at?

I would say NIB of something old and rare has to be worth 2x what a used one is worth. I think the $20k MM was NIB. So maybe 3x normal price might be a better estimate..

Back to the point.. My limited experience says the market for the safe is outside the video game community. In that circle, I would think the safe is worth more than a quantum or major havoc. Granted the market for the safe might be small at $3k, but I think its possible.

Not once did I argue that it's not rare.

Yes, when a game is rare, the price can be whatever the seller wants, but that goes for ANY game out there. It's up to the seller if he/she will pay that amount. Once again, rare does not equate to desirable which does not equate to valuable.

The only proof that I can offer as to some value is what I saw on eBay about 2-3 years ago when I had my machine. I saw one or two machines, blue, working, no BIN end around $400. Also, just because someone listed one on eBay with a BIN of $2500 doesn't mean one darn thing unless someone bought it for that price. I could list my Baby Pac with a BIN of $5000, but that doesn't mean that it's worth that.

Bottom line is that the machine is worth what someone will pay for it. Keep in mind that just because one or two people would pay $3000 for a machine does NOT mean that the machine is worth that much. I saw a Medieval Madness pinball fetch over $20,000 on eBay, so does that mean the machine is now worth that much?

Bill
I stand firm in my OPINION that a NIB safe may be worth up to $1000, but no way in hell is it worth even remotely close to $3000.
 
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