Price Check: Lethal Enforcers

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I've got a chance to buy/trade work for a Lethal Enforcers cabinet.

The left gun is attached and doesn't work.
The right gun was ripped off, but it comes with it.
Cab turns on and boots up and 'plays'. Just no gun work.

What would a good price be for this? How hard would it be to fix the guns?
 
Fully working one listed here in Ft. Worth today for $250, but only $200 if you bought both machines he was selling. Work down from there.
 
Nonworking guns can be a whole lot of different things. Some guns can be fixed and some can't. It can be voltages, the little lenses on the things, the little PCB boards inside the guns or the problem could even be on the main board.

I gave my $100 price based on the fact that you can buy that machine problem free for $300 at any game auction or from any operator selling off old stock. I depreciate all problems based on the most expensive common solutions and I took off $100 per gun.

If the gun doesn't work while I play it, is it dead? Or can it be repaired?

$100 a gun isn't horrible. I just want a fun gun game!
 
$84 per new gun directly from happ. Can be found cheaper. The guns are very easy to work on. There are two very common problems with the gun pcbs. The most common problem is that the optic sensor breaks away from the pcb. If the gun rattles when you shake it then that is the problem.

Another common problem on older gun optic pcbs was a faulty inductor. The inductor was phased out of the newer design of the pcb.

The guns are abused and dropped constantly on location. If the gun casing isn't destroyed and the lens isn't missing from the gun then it is most likely the optic sensor. I bought a ten pack of the sensors and they fixed all 6 of the broken guns in my closet.
 
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$84 per new gun directly from happ. Can be found cheaper. The guns are very easy to work on. There are two very common problems with the gun pcbs. The most common problem is that the optic sensor breaks away from the pcb. If the gun rattles when you shake it then that is the problem.

Another common problem on older gun optic pcbs was a faulty inductor. The inductor was phased out of the newer design of the pcb.

The guns are abused and dropped constantly on location. If the gun casing isn't destroyed and the lens isn't missing from the gun then it is most likely the optic sensor. I bought a ten pack of the sensors and they fixed all 6 of the broken guns in my closet.

Yeah, the guns are pretty simple. The phototransistor is cheap if it needs replaced, and I had a gun that was missing the lens... one from an NES zapper was a perfect replacement. :)

But yeah, I'd offer $100, and maybe go to $150 if you really want it. You really have to expect the worst though, otherwise you can easily end up spending more to get it all working than if you just bought one fully working. A lot of times the people selling the games know that... if it was a cheap simple fix, why didn't they fix it?

DogP
 
For the condition it sounds like it is in I'd go $100. I just sold one here in Austin last Summer for $750. It was fully shopped though and I put a repro marquee in it.

One thing to check for is the condition of the audio. Those Konami games have a shitty potted ASIC on them for the audio that sucks. The caps on it leak and destroy the audio.

Check that both speakers work and listen for any scratching or popping sounds after it has been on a while. I took me several hours to remove the coatings and replace the SMT caps on the one I had before I sold it.
 
I have mine listed now for $350 OBO with a fully-rebuilt monitor and it's 100% working. Community garage sale recently where I dropped it to $300. No bites.

I can pull the monitor, boards, and guns and sell it for more than that in pieces, so I'm not going much less than $300. I even have a set of side-art for it, if someone cares about some of the scratches and stuff on the cab...
 
I have mine listed now for $350 OBO with a fully-rebuilt monitor and it's 100% working. Community garage sale recently where I dropped it to $300. No bites.

I can pull the monitor, boards, and guns and sell it for more than that in pieces, so I'm not going much less than $300. I even have a set of side-art for it, if someone cares about some of the scratches and stuff on the cab...

You should be able to at least get that easily. I looked up your ad. My personal suggestion would be to put a bit more effort into getting good photos and the ad copy. It makes a HUGE difference. I had mine listed in Austin for $825 and I sold it for $800 last May. I also find that re-posting fairly frequently helps a lot as well (I know it's really annoying but it does work!). I had the ad running for about 5 months before it sold.

If you want I can PM you the ad I wrote for mine and the pics I used so you can see.

Scott
 
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If the sound on that game isnt bad, it soon will be.. All of the audio amps on these go bad.
 
If the sound on that game isnt bad, it soon will be.. All of the audio amps on these go bad.

If you are reasonably good with SMT work and spend the time before it goes completely bad then you can replace the caps that leak which cause it to fail.
 
I have mine listed now for $350 OBO with a fully-rebuilt monitor and it's 100% working. Community garage sale recently where I dropped it to $300. No bites.

I can pull the monitor, boards, and guns and sell it for more than that in pieces, so I'm not going much less than $300. I even have a set of side-art for it, if someone cares about some of the scratches and stuff on the cab...

Thats what I keep running into. The machines are worth more as parts than I can sell them for whole. This economy really sucks.

To the OP, offer no more than $100. That's just about all its worth even with a good monitor and board. But you can't be sure of that until the guns are fixed.
 
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