Price Check and Trade Help, Time Crisis 3 and Nascar Global Vr. Please!!

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Price Check and Trade Help, Time Crisis 3 and Nascar Global Vr. Please!!

Hi,

I am new to the forums, and would like to thank everyone in advance for any help!
I am a new vendor and have recently acquired a dual shooter Time Crisis 3, 27" monitors as well as 2 Nascar Global vr racers #82. I have seen asking prices on the Time Crisis 3 in the 4k range, and asking prices on the Nascar racers from 5k to 8k.

What can I reasonably expect to get for the sale of this equipment? Also I have a vendor trying to trade me 2 Fast and Furious Raw Thrills for the Nascar games and a boxer for the Time Crisis 3. Or 1 Fast Furious Super bike for both Nascars.

Any input or info would be greatly appreciated, i look forward to being a part of the forums.

Thanks!
 
Bump,

Any help would be appreciated.

Value of;
Time Crisis 3 twin shooter
2 Nascar Globar VR Racing Game, car #82

Fast & Furious Raw Thrills sit down drivers
Fasy & Furious Super Bike

I obv see alot of high dollar asking prices, just trying to determine values so I dont get taken advantage of in a swap.

$5 paypal dollars to most informative response, 5 responses minimum. Thanks, just need a little help.
 
it's hard to say really. but those are all newer games and the prices you mentioned don't sound that crazy but most of the people on here collect 80's and 90's arcade games and prices are very different than newer games.

I say most people on here don't really spend more than $500 for a game.


Time Crisis 3 maybe $3000? hopefully somebody else can give you better advice on newer games
 
This really isn't the right forum for this kind of conversation, we rarely if ever deal with anything newer -- but hell, I don't know where you would go. Someone here should know of a better forum though -- please chime in.

$4k for a TC3 SD does sound pretty reasonable. It's a strong earner, and has an even stronger fan following, but high parts prices will make some operators hesitate. It's definitely worth MORE than a Mocap Boxing, if that's what you were offered in trade.

I've never actually played GVR NASCAR myself, but the brand and the fact that it's a driver and has the shine of a "new" game will make it earn well. The fact that it actually IS pretty new makes it more attractive to operators too. Very important question though -- standard or deluxe version? The deluxe (mostly just bigger screen) is worth a lot more.

Fast & Furious is Cruis'n USA with better graphics, a turbo button, a movie license, and different (fewer) tracks. (I'm not kidding -- it's that bad.) I only played Superbikes once, but it just felt like more of the same. Their newness alone generates a lot of first-time-playing income, but revenue drops off quickly in settings that have primarily repeat customers. most of the demand generated comes from FECs and amusement parks.

To determine the value of, well, anything, you need to look at what everyone else is selling it for. Abuse the "completed listings" search on eBay, check with vendors that have a strong online presence like coinopexpress, stop by with previous customers that like you and shoot the shit a bit, ask them what they paid for their other games and what they would pay for game XYZ. (Craigslist is terrible for this -- you NEED to know whether something sold or not to get good data, and CL doesn't tell you that.)

Before you do that, though, you need to take some time to learn about what you're selling, and all the different factors that change the value of it. You have some terms to learn: Mini/Cabaret vs. Standard vs. Deluxe, Upright vs. Sitdown vs. Cockpit, Dedicated vs. Conversion (and particularly, how to do a conversion correctly and what constitutes a good or bad conversion). For instance, your TC3 is a "standard" version (and on a side note, TC3 is only available in twin; the only "single" cabinets are conversion kits for TC1 that were split up, and are very undesirable as you're essentially getting "half" a game.) I can't tell you offhand if it's a dedicated or conversion; the dedicated cabinets (standard and deluxe) have a gun pedestal made mostly of metal and painted yellow, with a single coin door in the middle serving both players.
 
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You will find that condition, location, and intent play far more into this then the title of the game.

A Tempest in Wisconsin is worth more then an equal Tempest in California it seems. They are rare here but CA seems to rain the damn things.

I assume all of these games will be "earners". So some new things play into it.

What has the higher earning capacity?

What is the repair cost?

What is likely to be damaged more?

What takes up more room?

What makes a bigger presence (ie what games sells itself more).

Some stuff to consider.



As far as TC3 if it is in great shape I see them go for 3-4k, but like I said the condition, location and intent have more to do with price here.

The Fast and Furious seem to be played more then the NASCAR games around my parts...but I would assume some areas of the US would be more inclined to play NASCAR games.

If you stick F&F and NASCAR in a country bar what would get more play? If you stick them both in a D&B in an inner city what would get more play?

So a lot goes into it.

I know not totally helpful, but give us some more info. You know your area the best, you know where they will go best.

All that said...pass on the Mocap boxing, no one seems to play that more then once or twice. It is a bitch to fix, and while yes the guns for TC3 suck to fix or replace, it gets far far more play then any Mocap I have seen.
 
I don't think TC 3 would go for anywhere near 3-4k as TC4 has been out, as well as Razing Storm, Crisis Zone, etc.

Crisis Zone came *before* TC3 and runs on inferior hardware (CZ ran on PSX-based Super 23 while TC3 is on PS2-based 246). Meanwhile, Razing Storm is a completely different game and doesn't belong to the series in any way shape or form. But I'm missing the point. Where a game sits in its series has very little effect on its worth to operators. TC3 may actually be worth MORE than 4 because 4 uses a crazy expensive gun sensor board and has some nasty security, not to mention it's harder, introduces very little in the way of new game mechanics, and the graphics aren't significantly better.
 
As with anything, price will vary by your location & game condition.

But I will advise you to stay away from the Fast & Furious games (Bike & Drift) especially if you are operating. TC3 will out earn either of the F&F in most locations. Nascar is hit or miss.

The Fast & Furious just do not hold up - in my experience / opinion the computers crap out more than any other game I have ever worked on and they lose their play value quickly.

Just my opinion.
 
Crisis Zone came *before* TC3 and runs on inferior hardware (CZ ran on PSX-based Super 23 while TC3 is on PS2-based 246). Meanwhile, Razing Storm is a completely different game and doesn't belong to the series in any way shape or form. But I'm missing the point. Where a game sits in its series has very little effect on its worth to operators. TC3 may actually be worth MORE than 4 because 4 uses a crazy expensive gun sensor board and has some nasty security, not to mention it's harder, introduces very little in the way of new game mechanics, and the graphics aren't significantly better.
Ah, my bad about CZ, and the rest makes sense. TC2 is probably my fav anyway. There were a couple TC3 and 4s at an auction down here yesterday, but I can't remember what they ended up at. I do remember Razing Storm ended at $7,100. They also had a Fast and Furious which sold for more than any of the other driving games they had.
 
Although each response was quite helpful, I had to choose one per my deal and pm the winner. I am greatful for all your input!!!

The location is a huge sports bar and I'm new to this side of the biz. (dealt only w 8 liner routes up to this point). We purchased the equipment on location and my "new" partner and I want to rotate out some games to give them a new look. As I am new I have no inventory to draw from, so he had proposed a swap with som eof his equipment.

Basically boiling down to swapping 2 nascar for 2 fast and furious and a boxer for TC3. Seems I may not wanna do that.

Sorry if this was in wrong spot, side note: it did come with a few videos. 2 Johnny Nero, an Area 51 max overdrive?, and a dark gauntlet? If I remember the names right.

Thanks again folks! And any additonal thoughts or contributions may inspire me to throw another $5 spot out there!!
 
The Fast & Furious just do not hold up - in my experience / opinion the computers crap out more than any other game I have ever worked on and they lose their play value quickly.

As someone who's personally responsible for four Drifts... THIS. So very much THIS. They blow up this that and the other thing all the time, they use Sparkle power supplies (already a crappy brand) that even Sparkle deemed too crappy to sell at retail, they use hideously cheap motherboards from China. At least the hard drives are decent, mostly Western Digital Green Label... not exactly reliable, but better than the Samsung drives Korean manufacturers are obsessed with (I'm looking at you, Andamiro...)

Also, their watchdog is schizophrenic and will reset the machine just because the CP got small a static shock, and occasionally for no reason at all... and then, they don't always reset the computer when it's actually supposed to. Oh, and if you replace a motherboard, the watchdog may well be incompatible with the new board, so it won't boot at all with the watchdog connected. And the game is ridiculously unstable -- you NEED that watchdog, or someone checking on the machines every few hours.

Sorry, I felt like ranting. Those machines are a constant thorn in my side.

Basically boiling down to swapping 2 nascar for 2 fast and furious and a boxer for TC3. Seems I may not wanna do that.

I wouldn't unless they ponied up additional games or a few thousand in bank. Mocap Boxing and F&F series are certainly games you wouldn't have trouble moving, so don't shove them off the table, but as-is, that's a bad trade.

Sorry if this was in wrong spot, side note: it did come with a few videos. 2 Johnny Nero, an Area 51 max overdrive?, and a dark gauntlet? If I remember the names right.

If I had two Johnny Nero's on the same location I'd be trying to replace one of them with say, a Police Trainer or Lethal Enforcers, or if I had the spending power, a Time Crisis 2/3. I don't know much about the game though.

Gauntlet Dark Legacy will attract attention in some collector circles (some people here are looking for it, even), if you want to go that route. You won't get a whole lot, since it's not particularly uncommon, but if it isn't earning well, it might be worthwhile.
 
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