POLL: Should RAM be banned from KLOV?

Should the owners ban RAM and purge the system of their contact info?

  • Yes

    Votes: 41 57.7%
  • No

    Votes: 30 42.3%

  • Total voters
    71
  • Poll closed .

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Simple question. Should the owners ban RAM and purge the system of their contact info?

I vote yes. This site is a MAJOR source of link juice (and customers) for RAM. If KLOV moves, I'm sure BYOAC will soon follow the lead.
 
No. I think the entertainment value is far too high and just people watching that train wreck bring creates a large and frequent viewership to KLOV :)
 
Ban yes. Ban anyone who has taken money, orders, or conducting any form of business on their behalf. That is my opinion based on the limited facts that I have in front of me...

I do not think their contact info should be purged. I think this forum serves as a great warning to anyone who might be taken.

But ultimately, none of us have all of the facts and/or info that Mclemore, and Tbombacl have.

I trust that the admins of this site will do what is ultimately best in their eyes and I trust that it will be be for the best overall. Users of this site have far more input then in many other sites, and I think that shows the level of care for KLOV's members. So I have no doubt that the best decision will be made with the most information, and that the best interest of the members and arcade community will be taken into account.
 
No.

They should be treated like scammers and sleazoids are over on the Neo-Geo forums.

Lock their profile, give them a custom rank/title of "Scammer", lock their signature to describe their scams, give them a scamming type of avatar, and lock them out of every section of the forum except for the RamControls.com feedback section.

Keep it that way for Dave/Adam/etc, Jim/Dan/etc, Errol, and the whole lot of them until everyone is reimbursed.

When they go to jail you can update their custom rank/title to "Convicted Scammer" ;)

If they wish to turn over all inventory to a trusted 3rd party (please count me out, I don't want to drive 1/2 way across teh country to do this) then they could be titled "Scammer trying to make amends" until such time as all the inventory is sold. If everyone is paid back then call them "Reformed Scammer" and if not and they still owe people their title will be "Scammer who didn't make full amends" :)

RJ
 
No.

They should be treated like scammers and sleazoids are over on the Neo-Geo forums.

Lock their profile, give them a custom rank/title of "Scammer", lock their signature to describe their scams, give them a scamming type of avatar, and lock them out of every section of the forum except for the RamControls.com feedback section.

Keep it that way for Dave/Adam/etc, Jim/Dan/etc, Errol, and the whole lot of them until everyone is reimbursed.

When they go to jail you can update their custom rank/title to "Convicted Scammer" ;)

If they wish to turn over all inventory to a trusted 3rd party (please count me out, I don't want to drive 1/2 way across teh country to do this) then they could be titled "Scammer trying to make amends" until such time as all the inventory is sold. If everyone is paid back then call them "Reformed Scammer" and if not and they still owe people their title will be "Scammer who didn't make full amends" :)

RJ

If channelmanic was a judge we would have a LOT LESS repeat criminals in the world. :)

and I agree
 
I've no skin in the RAM thing (I'm not a victim).

I'm a little unclear on what 'delete contact info' means - I wouldn't, for instance, want to see all links to RAM removed, because I want searches about RAM controls to lead people to the information here. Perhaps there's some way to mark the RAM links such that when people search Google they'll find them, but the links won't actually contribute link-juice to the target? I don't know enough to really say on that one.

I think that some of what channelmanic said (lock them from posting outside the RAM feedback forum, etc) is probably a good idea, though I'd use 'accused scammer' until such time as they are convicted in a court of law. I'd also make their profiles point to the RAM feedback forum, where the curious can find the RAM side of the story as well as the accusations.
 
Simple question. Should the owners ban RAM and purge the system of their contact info?

I vote yes. This site is a MAJOR source of link juice (and customers) for RAM. If KLOV moves, I'm sure BYOAC will soon follow the lead.


Lol , this coming from the guy that just acted like he bought $300+ worth of parts and then defended it. I wonder how many people saw that and followed suit with orders. Your experiment sure taught us something we did not know...
 
I'm a little unclear on what 'delete contact info' means - I wouldn't, for instance, want to see all links to RAM removed, because I want searches about RAM controls to lead people to the information here. Perhaps there's some way to mark the RAM links such that when people search Google they'll find them, but the links won't actually contribute link-juice to the target?

Simple. Keep the key words like "Ram Controls", but drop the links to their site. I also like CM's idea better.

Lol , this coming from the guy that just acted like he bought $300+ worth of parts and then defended it. I wonder how many people saw that and followed suit with orders.

Fair criticism. I'll go back and edit my original posts to include a link to the reveal. That won't make everyone happy, but I made the decision and I'll take the fallout for it. That said, there are quite a few KLOV people buying from him in spite of the warnings, so I doubt my post I made any significant impact.

Your experiment sure taught us something we did not know...

True. But most of this group isn't privy to the entire effort and the information it yielded.
 
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my vote is to ban the Ram.
it seems the legal action is still moving forward and leaving contact open here
dosnt seem to serve the point it once did.

Dan the man himself said he wouldnt be posting much unless it was to update you on great new products. Un-Bolieve-oble!

the sub Ram forum and its content should by all means stay.
continued updates by those in legal proceedings will be nice to read
and cut down on the whack-a-mole drama that seems to accure
whenever Jim/Dan pops up.

though this polll really belongs in the general discusion where the people will really see it.
 
I say we hunt down both Jim/Dan and Dave/Adam and give them big ole' bear hugs and kisses. I know that photo of Dave/Adam makes me HOT HOT HOT ... i can only imagine what his bare chest looks like... mmmmm....
 
Lock their profile, give them a custom rank/title of "Scammer", lock their signature to describe their scams, give them a scamming type of avatar, and lock them out of every section of the forum except for the RamControls.com feedback section.
If they aren't banned outright, this is a close 2nd for me. :D
 
I wonder how many people saw that and followed suit with orders.
I'm not defending anyone here, but seriously, if anyone bought from Ram based on Pdoolittle's "Test" purchase, then they deserve to get ripped off. There is plenty of information here that should stop anyone from ordering from Ram, so if someone went in and just cherrypicked pdoolittle's post as some sort of confirmation that things were back on track with Ram (especially in light that he never got anything from them), then I dunno, I suppose a fool and his money are soon parted.
Oh and after Dan/Jim's recent posts where he basically said he's going to get what he can out of the parts and that's it, I say he should be banned. The only reason he wasn't banned from what I understand is to keep an open line of communication where he could try to fill some of the old orders and help people get paid back. If that isn't happening anymore, then he needs to go.
 
I say we hunt down both Jim/Dan and Dave/Adam and give them big ole' bear hugs and kisses. I know that photo of Dave/Adam makes me HOT HOT HOT ... i can only imagine what his bare chest looks like... mmmmm....

If they aren't banned outright, this is a close 2nd for me. :D
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Ummm, ok... :D
 
No.

They should be treated like scammers and sleazoids are over on the Neo-Geo forums.

Lock their profile, give them a custom rank/title of "Scammer", lock their signature to describe their scams, give them a scamming type of avatar, and lock them out of every section of the forum except for the RamControls.com feedback section.

Keep it that way for Dave/Adam/etc, Jim/Dan/etc, Errol, and the whole lot of them until everyone is reimbursed.

When they go to jail you can update their custom rank/title to "Convicted Scammer" ;)

If they wish to turn over all inventory to a trusted 3rd party (please count me out, I don't want to drive 1/2 way across teh country to do this) then they could be titled "Scammer trying to make amends" until such time as all the inventory is sold. If everyone is paid back then call them "Reformed Scammer" and if not and they still owe people their title will be "Scammer who didn't make full amends" :)

RJ

Best Idea yet I vote for this! EDIT: I voted no but only because i'd like to see the above happen. I just want to be clear I don't think this guy should be roaming the board freely!
 
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Yep, that was a Freudian slip if I have ever seen one, the guy is a class "A" scamming dick only out for himself. Ban him already! People that lost money are probably never going to see a dime. If he is actually sending parts out it is small potatoes orders that were never filled and not the multiple orders for hundreds and thousands of dollars of parts that were never made. People getting those small orders after months and years of waiting don't need KLOV as a communication medium for the transactions. Every time that guy posts it is full of contradictory statements i.e. LIES. What a joke. Just cut him off along with all the conspirators already.

Oh and after Dan/Jim's recent posts where he basically said he's going to get what he can out of the parts and that's it, I say he should be banned.
 
Ban them but keep the posts around as a warning:

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...make this his avatar...

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or this one...

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EDIT: By the way... how did you create a STICKIED POLL?
 
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