Pole Position II Side-Art Question

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Does anyone have the specifics on how the side-art for Pole Position II was applied and what kind of ink was used? (I say ink because that's what it looks like and not paint).

I'd also appreciate ideas on the best way to color match. (Black and white are easy, but I need to also reproduce the specific shade of grey, as well as red and blue).

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
 
Ive got this scanned from NOS from years ago Ive been meaning to test print.


need to know how to install full side art??
how do you plan to reproduce it?
 
Ive got this scanned from NOS from years ago Ive been meaning to test print.


need to know how to install full side art??
how do you plan to reproduce it?

?!?

NOS what?

Nothing was printed out. The colors were placed right onto the white surface of the cabinet. If I could find out what was used I'd get the red and blue and touch up the cabinet.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
 
I thought atari art was silk screened right on the side of the cabinet?

I always used a sharpie for the black and a white appliance touch up pen for the white, that usually takes care of 90 percent of the faults on an atari title, since the base is white and they screened the black on last (thus it rubs off first).
 
I think you might be talking about the PPI side art. Lots of operators did not install the PPII art and just left the red, blue and silver/grey from PPI. PPII is retro-awesome, and looks like this:

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It's probably worth mentioning that mine does not have the correct PPII track decal on the upper dash in this photo.
 

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To clarify
How most Atari art was done.
-Plain White vinyl was laminated to a chunk of clear coated particleboard.
-SilkScreened 1 color at a time (Both Solvent and UV INKS)
-Cut to the cabinets shape
-Cabinet assembled

For colors especailly on RED you cant just rely on anyones color matching to your cabinet for touchups. Too many factors would effect the color espcially with Red since Red is prone to fade the most out of any other ink color.

Im working on a tutorial on color matching and touchups here.
http://www.coinopspace.com/profiles/blogs/the-wonderful-world-of-arcade-colors

but still have alot to add.
 
For colors especailly on RED you cant just rely on anyones color matching to your cabinet for touchups. Too many factors would effect the color espcially with Red since Red is prone to fade the most out of any other ink color.

Gotta agree with that. When I did mine, I had to replace the bottom sides of the cab. I took the piece I cut out to home depot and used their color match system. It matched what was on my cab, but any other cab would probably be different because of the fade.
 
Gotta agree with that. When I did mine, I had to replace the bottom sides of the cab. I took the piece I cut out to home depot and used their color match system. It matched what was on my cab, but any other cab would probably be different because of the fade.

I have Pole Position II "Ireland" cabinet.

Yes, I know about fading. That's why I didn't ask for color codes. The idea is to color match, but before I can do that I need to find out what kind of ink was used.

Home Depot color matches for paint, so I need to figure out how to get this done.

Color matching and using different than original paints/inks can be a PITA. (I tried on my Donkey Kong bezel, but it didn't come out the way I wanted, so I'll have to get back to that).

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
 
?!?

NOS what?

Nothing was printed out. The colors were placed right onto the white surface of the cabinet. If I could find out what was used I'd get the red and blue and touch up the cabinet.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

Sorry, reminded me of this:

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I have Pole Position II "Ireland" cabinet.

Yes, I know about fading. That's why I didn't ask for color codes. The idea is to color match, but before I can do that I need to find out what kind of ink was used.

Home Depot color matches for paint, so I need to figure out how to get this done.

Color matching and using different than original paints/inks can be a PITA. (I tried on my Donkey Kong bezel, but it didn't come out the way I wanted, so I'll have to get back to that).

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

I mentioned this in my blog
but using the same inks can result in worse results.
theyre a solvent and if not done carefully any attempts to touchup will result in the ink attacking the original inks.
not saying it cant be done I do it all the time if screened art needs to be "touched up"
but the inks are thinned with laquer thinner to make them thinner.

your really better off mixing and matching model paints-IMO
 
I mentioned this in my blog
but using the same inks can result in worse results.
theyre a solvent and if not done carefully any attempts to touchup will result in the ink attacking the original inks.
not saying it cant be done I do it all the time if screened art needs to be "touched up"
but the inks are thinned with laquer thinner to make them thinner.

your really better off mixing and matching model paints-IMO

Yeah. I was using Testors on my DK monitor cover as we discussed. (You don't get much paint in those bottles/kits). For my Pole position II cabinet I will either need to do a lot of touching up or go over the entire cabinet, which of course would be tedious but make exact color matches less important.

Perhaps it is easier to just color match the grey, blue and red at Home Depot and get some acrylic latex primer/paint.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
 
I really like the Ireland cabinets--they're sharp as hell. Where do you find such a thing? How do they end up over here?

That's a good question. There certainly aren't many of them.

Because of it's condition the previous owner(Kjoel) couldn't sell the cabinet, so he posted that it was going in the trash. I made arrangements to have a friend make the long drive and pick it up. When it arrived I found that the marquee and monitor glass had been removed beforehand. (The "unknown" working condition of the monitor turned out to be trashed, but I had spares). Months later when I spotted an ad where he was selling them I asked how much but he refused because he said he didn't ship glass.

So basically I'll have to use "EMDKay" or "Basement Arcade" for marquee and monitor glass reproductions.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
 
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