Please clarify for Paul Gilbert/Chuck Fitch - Rainbow Cable for DK - Yes or No?

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Please clarify for Paul Gilbert/Chuck Fitch - Rainbow Cable for DK - Yes or No?

Hi all,

As I'm positively sure Chuck/Paul reads these threads. Will someone please do me the honor of confirming with me via this thread that not all Donkey Kongs require the rainbow cable.

I sold to Chuck a working DK boardset mounted to the metal mounting plate pulled directly out of my original blue DK cabinet on Ebay. The cabinet was all original, original nintendo power supply, no hacks, no mods. Just like it came from the factory. I sold the board as I decided to gut my game and convert it to a 60 in 1 Multicade.

Chuck swears to me up and down in his rambling e-mails.
A. The rainbow cable wasn't included and that's why it doesn't work.
(I never showed a picture in my listing of the rainbow cable, never mentioned it was included in the listing. But he says it should have been included?) Where does not showing something in a listing or even mentioning it constitute it should be included in the auction. I guess he was to assume he was to get the entire power supply assembly too as that is also necessary in making the game work???
B. He also states that there is no way I could have proved it was working without the rainbow cable. How is that so. I took 2 screen shots of the board working in the cabinet. Unplugged the board and then took 2 pics of the boardset moments after pulling it from the cabinet.
C. Correct me if I'm wrong some DK's do NOT use the rainbow cable, right?

I think he's just trying to blow smoke to look like he has a justifiable reason to say it wasn't working. I know damn well that board worked. He tried sending me a youtube video of the screen rolling on his test jig saying the boards was F'd up.....I want my money back.

I've been buying, selling and trading with many of the fine folks in the pinball/arcade collecting community online for well over 14 years now...and I have never had to deal with a guy like this before. But then again, you always here there are people like this out there. I guess it's my right of passage for finally having to deal with a loser.

Craig
 
If you are ONLY using the edge connector to hook up the DK board then YES, you need the Rainbow Cable.

If you are using the JAMMA to DK adapter that you can buy from Mike's Arcade and other sites... YES, you need the Rainbow Cable.

If Chuck would read Page 8 of the TKG4-UP ("2 P.C. Boards Type") manual for Donkey Kong he would see that P3 and P9 are used to power the video board and CPU board in a cab wired according to the manual.

P12 on the CPU board and P4 on the Video board are NOT CONNECTED. These are the 2 connections you use with the Rainbow Cable to get power out from the CPU PC Board to the Video Board if you are using the edge connector only for hooking the board up.

Chuck is either using the board with a JAMMA adapter or with a wiring harness that isn't using all the little plugs that Nintendo provided/used in a TKG4-UP cabinet.

Since I've never seen every possible Nintendo cabinet wiring job from the factory I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he has a factory cabinet with only the edge connector hooked up. If that's the case then he'll need to buy/find a cable.

Nintendo didn't use that rainbow cable in all cabinets and it's very easy to show that by reading the manual for the TKG4-UP cabinet.
 
And, according to chuck himself, on this message board defending the sale of a board he had that was missing parts:

"there is always a modification that needs to be done or chips may need cleaning" when you buy a board online.

So, there you go.
 
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Chuck was plugging the board he bought from me into his DK wiring harness that uses a switching power supply and plugs into the DK boardset using the edge connector (same setup we always see on his web site and in his youtube videos with the sideways mounted LCD on the wall). This is not how mine was hooked up in my DK cabinet. Mine was hooked up using all the small connectors at top of the board...thus not needing or having a rainbow cable.

For someone that "claims to do DK board repair" you would figure they would be a guru on the subject. Knowing wheither or not the cable is needed or not.
 
again... Paul Gilbert is a famous guitarist who founded metal band Racer X.

reading some threads mentioning chuck's guitar themed ID's and websites, it's seems pretty obvious Paul Gilbert is an alias.. a really funny one, but still most likely an alias.
 
Then again, is this the same setup that shows Dokert's harness rolling? Maybe it is his setup and not the board or the harness.

Or maybe the monitor is just trying to roll its eyes from having to put up with Chuck.

ken
 
The cabinet was all original, original nintendo power supply, no hacks, no mods. Just like it came from the factory. I sold the board as I decided to gut my game and convert it to a 60 in 1 Multicade.

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Then again, is this the same setup that shows Dokert's harness rolling? Maybe it is his setup and not the board or the harness.

Or maybe the monitor is just trying to roll its eyes from having to put up with Chuck.

ken

Yes, Dumbass is still using my harness and it requires the use of a rainbow cable because it is wired for an edge connector only.

If he ever pulls his head out of his ass, maybe he could read the fucking manual and see that not all DK boards require rainbow cables.

Then again, he thinks that he is going to be able to program "Custom" chips with his new piece of shit burner.
 
You are wayy to kind.

I'm trying to be as kind as I can to Chuck. It's hard... but I'll keep to my word as to what I said to him.

Then again, he thinks that he is going to be able to program "Custom" chips with his new piece of shit burner.

I agree that he's over the top and out of his mind that he's going to program "custom chips" for Galaga with that... but I will give him pr0ps and say that it's a nice programmer. It's the newer version of the programmer I use (and have a backup for..) and it's not cheap.

EPROMs and PROMs for Galaga, yes... but not "Custom Chips" that were from Namco.

There is a project underway to reproduce those on FPGA type chips and it'll be interesting to see where it goes though. I think JROK did one already. It would be interesting to see if Chuck "appropriated" or "borrowed" code for that one and tries selling it.
 
Yes, Dumbass is still using my harness and it requires the use of a rainbow cable because it is wired for an edge connector only.

If he ever pulls his head out of his ass, maybe he could read the fucking manual and see that not all DK boards require rainbow cables.

Then again, he thinks that he is going to be able to program "Custom" chips with his new piece of shit burner.

What a surprise.:eek:

Sorry, I didn't even try to watch the latest Chuckie lovefest. I tried watching 2 of them and decided I don't wish to pollute my internet connection with any more of his drivel.

ken
 
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