Pirates: A Debate

[indecks]

There is a clear difference between having a rom of a game that is no longer comercially available and pirating a game that is sitting new on store shelves. The latter takes money out of the developers' pockets while the former does not. I know both would legally be considered piracy, but I'm not arguing from a legal standpoint, I'm arguing from a moral standpoint. Once you have deprived someone of their right to profit from their labor, a wrong has been committed.

Ah, so you're not a renter then. You don't rent movies because the company that made the film doesn't get paid when you rent them. Same thing with games? You don't rent them? You don't buy them used?

It's all the same thing. None of the original designers/filmmakers make a profit when you rent, borrow or buy used.

Your horse is pretty high, you should get down from there.

 

[ncfiala]

Ah, so you're not a renter then. You don't rent movies because the company that made the film doesn't get paid when you rent them. Same thing with games? You don't rent them? You don't buy them used?

It's all the same thing. None of the original designers/filmmakers make a profit when you rent, borrow or buy used.

Your horse is pretty high, you should get down from there.

If you don't see the difference between renting and buying used and piracy, then you certainly are mentally deficient in some way. There is a clear difference, which is why the fomer is legal and the latter is illegal.

It just astounds me that you would come on here and blatantly flaunt pirating and then refuse to admit that it's the wrong thing to do. And then to try and equate piracy with renting? Ridiculous. So stealing a car and borrowing a friends car are the same thing? I guess in your world they are.

You rip people off, plain and simple.

 

[indecks]

If you don't see the difference between renting and buying used and piracy, then you certainly are mentally deficient in some way. There is a clear difference, which is why the fomer is legal and the latter is illegal.

It just astounds me that you would come on here and blatantly flaunt pirating and then refuse to admit that it's the wrong thing to do. And then to try and equate piracy with renting? Ridiculous. So stealing a car and borrowing a friends car are the same thing? I guess in your world they are.

You rip people off, plain and simple.

Get over it.

 

[ncfiala]

Get over it.

You certainly are a broken record. Like I said before, if you're not going to actually post something that is relevant to a debate on piracy (which is what this thread is supposed to be about), then there is no point in you posting. In fact, just quit posting altogether. We don't need pirates here. There are plenty of other forums for your kind.

You're a thief.

 

[indecks]

You certainly are a broken record. Like I said before, if you're not going to actually post something that is relevant to a debate on piracy (which is what this thread is supposed to be about), then there is no point in you posting. In fact, just quit posting altogether. We don't need pirates here. There are plenty of other forums for your kind.

You're a thief.

What's really funny is that you're acting like there's some need for me to explain myself to you. Like I have some obligation to tell you why I pirate games. That's funny to me. It makes you look pathetic. You're one to talk about being a broken record, what with all of your posts screaming the same thing over and over.

I said I don't care what you think, but it's funny that you think that I should. Hilarious even.

 

[FMonk]

I think it's time that both of you dropped the issue. payment, put down your stick and stop poking. Nick, stop responding with insults. Let's move on with our lives.

 

[ncfiala]

What's really funny is that you're acting like there's some need for me to explain myself to you. Like I have some obligation to tell you why I pirate games. That's funny to me. It makes you look pathetic. You're one to talk about being a broken record, what with all of your posts screaming the same thing over and over.

I said I don't care what you think, but it's funny that you think that I should. Hilarious even.

You're a thief and I'm pathetic? That's a good one.

Yeah, I'm saying the same thing over and over, but there's a difference. What I'm saying is actually relevant to the topic. You have said nothing relevant.

I will keep asking you the same question over and over and over until one of three things happens. You quit posting in this thread (although if you flaunt your pirating again this will happen all over again), the mods lock or delete this thread, or you answer this very simple question. Do you think pirating is wrong but you choose to do it anyway or do you think what you are doing is perfectably acceptable behaviour. Either way, you're still a thief. That much is inescapable.

And I never said you should care what I think. In fact, I specifically said you shouldn't care what I think. I just think you should care that you are stealing from people.

 

[ncfiala]

I think it's time that both of you dropped the issue. payment, put down your stick and stop poking. Nick, stop responding with insults. Let's move on with our lives.

If he doesn't stop posting I will keep asking the question until the thread is locked or deleted. I find it strange that very few seem to care about piracy. I guess it has become so commonplace. They can't see the people who they are ripping-off and they can't really get caught so it's alright. As a gamer, it is disturbing. Piracy forces companies to charge more for their product and it also forces them to take all kinds of annoying anti-piracy measures. Why should legitimate gamers have to suffer put up with that so that people like this can have their products free?

Also, I don't see why I'm being called out for being insulting. He has insulted me several times as well. You can't consider "thief" an insult since he freely admitted that he is.

 

[indecks]

can someone already ban this guy for harassment or something? I mean he even told the mods that he wouldn't stop. I think that deserves a nice banning.

 

[ncfiala]

can someone already ban this guy for harassment or something? I mean he even told the mods that he wouldn't stop. I think that deserves a nice banning.

You condone piracy on here and I should be banned? Good one.

You're the one that keeps posting with no relevant information. If you're not going to make a contribution to a debate on piracy then why are you in this thread at all?

The mods can ban me. It makes little difference to me. But I've always spoke my mind on here and I'm not going to stop speaking my mind (and I haven't been banned yet).