picking a double-bitted lock

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not sure if that's the proper terminology or not.

but do any of you guys pick the locks that have pins on both sides?

what are the tricks if so?
 
This would go faster and easier

well I haven't tried picking this one yet.

but a standard lock takes about 10 seconds, and drilling takes forever and it's a pain in the ass and leaves metal fragments all over.
 
Try this.
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Wait...that might leave metal fragments all over.:D
 
Dunno about picking it, but I drilled the one out of my Space Shuttle. I just put a plastic bin under it to catch all the debris. Worked awesome. Just used the biggest bit I had and proceeded carefully, then laughed at those puny brass twits when they fell out like a bunch of fairies. :p
 
yeah is doesn't matter if I get it open or not, but I can hear a bunch of tokens in there.
if I can't pick it I may drill it.


guess no lockpickers have a secret for these locks then huh?
 
Really? Do you use a Fisher Price drill or something? drilling a lock takes like 3 mins.

well I haven't tried picking this one yet.

but a standard lock takes about 10 seconds, and drilling takes forever and it's a pain in the ass and leaves metal fragments all over.
 
I've done it exactly like a single bitted lock (small flat head and paperclip), but had a friend keep tension on the lock since I needed both hands to manipulate the tumblers. It took longer, but it worked. Depending on the quality of the lock, it may be harder/easier... though a drill works too. I didn't have a drill and it wasn't my machine, so I had no choice.

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There's a ton of youtube videos...you'll need a set of lock picks or a VERY small screw driver.

I picked a couple about 2 years ago and haven't had the need since.

If you have the right tools (lock pick set are cheap) it real easy.

I spent less than a half hour watching the vids...picked the 2 locks. I think I ended up using a dental pick and a small screw driver

yeah is doesn't matter if I get it open or not, but I can hear a bunch of tokens in there.
if I can't pick it I may drill it.


guess no lockpickers have a secret for these locks then huh?
 
Seriously, 3 minutes tops. And if you get some masking tape, double it up on itself (so the sticky side is up) & hold under the drill bit - most of the metal shavings will land on & stick to the tape.

Really? Do you use a Fisher Price drill or something? drilling a lock takes like 3 mins.
 
It's not like you can spend 15 minutes reading about it and then go pick any lock. This is a skill that requires some practice.

Some locks are much more difficult to pick than others. There are some very cheap arcade locks out there that don't take much skill and there are others that deserve the drill.

Takes a lot of patience. Think about it- if it were so easy, then all the stupid thugs would have a pick set and love to show off their skillzz..
 
On games with original locks.....I always try to pick them just in case an extra set of keys are inside. And quite often.....I have found a set of keys behind a picked lock!

To answer your question...yes...double bitted locks can be picked with two of your favorite picks and a standard turning tool. Unfortunately...everything is technique and practice. My father is/was a certified locksmith at one point and he taught me. Interesting enough when your 'feel' gets good enough and you can set pins to the shear line with ease....you will find you can use your second pick held by your teeth to set the last pin(s) on a double bitted lock. Sounds strange.....but I do it that way.....and it works.

Of course....if you do something like this on a daily basis there are tools you can purchase that in effect 'give you a third hand'. The word of caution from my father always was....."If you have tons of specialty lock picking tools that better be your business or you will look like a criminal". Having 3 picks in your pocket and being able to open anything based on technique is what I was taught as 'the code of ethics' of lock pickers. Last time I was needed I opened a hardened/security 7 pin tube lock for a friend on a change machine....with the same set of standard picks. I was quite pleased to be able to do that and the original T-handle lock/mechanism was saved as well! ;-)
 
And don't forget that being able to pick a lock (even just once) is one of the required "guy skills" like knowing how to use a skillsaw or how to change your oil.
 
Put your tension wrench in the middle, then pick both sides back and forth. It's basically just like you have twice as many pins.

If you can't fit the pick with the tension wrench in place, you can use two tension wrenches. Put one at the bottom and pick the top, then while still keeping tension put the other tension wrench at the top and transfer the tension, then pick the bottom. Repeat as necessary. It usually takes me 2-3 times longer to pick the double-sided ones.
 
well I haven't tried picking this one yet.

but a standard lock takes about 10 seconds, and drilling takes forever and it's a pain in the ass and leaves metal fragments all over.


I can drill a lock in less than 30 seconds... (except for the barrel style which takes a few minutes).
 
I can drill a lock in less than 30 seconds... (except for the barrel style which takes a few minutes).

ok, I guess I have used drill bits that were too small or weak in the past.

plus I like to enhance my skillset picking this thing.

I will spend 2 months trying to pick this thing before I will try to drill it. :)
 
On games with original locks.....I always try to pick them just in case an extra set of keys are inside. And quite often.....I have found a set of keys behind a picked lock!

To answer your question...yes...double bitted locks can be picked with two of your favorite picks and a standard turning tool. Unfortunately...everything is technique and practice. My father is/was a certified locksmith at one point and he taught me. Interesting enough when your 'feel' gets good enough and you can set pins to the shear line with ease....you will find you can use your second pick held by your teeth to set the last pin(s) on a double bitted lock. Sounds strange.....but I do it that way.....and it works.

Of course....if you do something like this on a daily basis there are tools you can purchase that in effect 'give you a third hand'. The word of caution from my father always was....."If you have tons of specialty lock picking tools that better be your business or you will look like a criminal". Having 3 picks in your pocket and being able to open anything based on technique is what I was taught as 'the code of ethics' of lock pickers. Last time I was needed I opened a hardened/security 7 pin tube lock for a friend on a change machine....with the same set of standard picks. I was quite pleased to be able to do that and the original T-handle lock/mechanism was saved as well! ;-)

I never thought about this and it happen to me. The back door didnt have a lock so I took it off and found the key to the coin door.
 
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