People are buying from RAM Controls again??? WTF?

He's finally recognizing what a weak argument his, "at least my son is happy" comment was and is now trying to justify his unspeakable actions.

I am glad you put $$$ in the pockets of a known liar and thief to entertain your child on a game. How many hours of play does that 720 get? Was it worth contributing to a criminal enterprise and stabbing folks in this community that you seem to frequent in the back?


The reality is this is just a hobby, and these are just games. They are not more important than friendship, community, etc. There are hundred if not thousands of posts by people who RAM ripped off, yet you felt it was more important to rebuild a joystick than stand behind your fellow forum members. The same people you turn to if you need FREE info on how to fix your games, or a lead on a new game, or some parts for cheap. You stabbed all of them in the back so your kid could be happy. Nice lesson to teach your kid, it's ok to support a crook and dick others over as long as it gets you what YOU want in the end. Yeah, you are a true hero to your son.

My folks instilled in me the belief that there is no greater responsibility one has as to their community large or small. They also taught me to stand tall and to do the right thing no matter how difficult or inconvenient. I am sure there were other games or part or things that could have been bought to make your son happy. There are other known vendors of the parts you were looking for.

As far as your weak argument goes, I am sure this is your way of trying to justify your actions and back pedal a bit on the above mentioned statement.
 
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He's finally recognizing what a weak argument his, "at least my son is happy" comment was and is now trying to justify his unspeakable actions.

I am glad you put $$$ in the pockets of a known liar and thief to entertain your child on a game. How many hours of play does that 720 get? Was it worth contributing to a criminal enterprise and stabbing folks in this community that you seem to frequent in the back?


The reality is this is just a hobby, and these are just games. They are not more important than friendship, community, etc. There are hundred if not thousands of posts by people who RAM ripped off, yet you felt it was more important to rebuild a joystick than stand behind your fellow forum members. The same people you turn to if you need FREE info on how to fix your games, or a lead on a new game, or some parts for cheap. You stabbed all of them in the back so your kid could be happy. Nice lesson to teach your kid, it's ok to support a crook and dick others over as long as it gets you what YOU want in the end. Yeah, you are a true hero to your son.

My folks instilled in me the belief that there is no greater responsibility one has as to their community large or small. They also taught me to stand tall and to do the right thing no matter how difficult or inconvenient. I am sure there were other games or part or things that could have been bought to make your son happy. There are other known vendors of the parts you were looking for.

As far as your weak argument goes, I am sure this is your way of trying to justify your actions and back pedal a bit on the above mentioned statement.

and thats what Christmas is all about Charlie Brown :)
 
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The reality is this is just a hobby, and these are just games. They are not more important than friendship, community, etc.

My folks instilled in me the belief that there is no greater responsibility one has as to their community large or small. They also taught me to stand tall and to do the right thing no matter how difficult or inconvenient.

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I just don't understand how anyone that is an active member of this community and that utilizes its services could support someone who has STOLEN tens of thousands of dollars from it.

It's bad enough to buy from them, but then to come on here an announce it and then justify it is sickening.
 
I just don't understand how anyone that is an active member of this community and that utilizes its services could support someone who has STOLEN tens of thousands of dollars from it.

It's bad enough to buy from them, but then to come on here an announce it and then justify it is sickening.

But... they're having a holiday sale! :rolleyes:
Act now and get a free Buddy Christ!!!

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You're right Gordon. Stupid is as stupid does and it will always be that way.

No doubt he should be held accountable, but some of the names people are calling him are a little much..Let's not just pick on Scaboo4, remember there are others. One in particular that bought from Ram and posted about it only to go down the same route and tell everyone that they were F#*ked in the head. Seems people have forgot about him and chumin it up with him.
 
I think if you just posted here first stating that you really need the part you bought and see what people would have offered you then this would have never happened.
 
This post is for those that criticize others for buying product from alledged crooks. You say it hurts the hobby and the arcade game industry. Well think about this. Your doing the same thing when you buy reproduction parts such as art work and multi boards or anything else from china. I can name about 15 different people printing their own art work and selling it on ebay and this forum. How many thousands of dollars are nintendo,bally,namco,stern and others getting screwed out of. Not to say every item you buy that is made in china in some way supports comunism. So next time your quick to judge someone think about what you do. And you those that wish bad on others. Watch out karma is looking for you.
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while buying anything form china is not the best thing for an american to do, it has unfortunately become a necessary evil to a degree.

Comparing folks buying multiboards and considering that the same as buying from scam controls, this makes no sense to me.
Reprinting art that cant be had from the manufacturer due to not bieng available, the manufacturer bieng out of business, etc, also not "right" but necessary in alot of cases. Again, what this had to do with ram cotrols fucking over ALOT of people, is beyond me.
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Must read apology to ram victims

I already said buying from ram probably wasn't the smart thing to do. I also bought multi-boards,stuff made in china,and repro art as well. I didn't brag about buying from them. Just posting their info. I also said i would probably get a bunch of heat from doing this. So if you guys are close to being done kicking me around cursing me like my name is dan. I think there are more productive things everyone could be doing. With these things being said i will kick my own azz to make everyone happy.

Darn scaboo what in the heck were you thinking. You gotta be the dumbest ^%$%^ ^%^%$ that ever joined the forum.
As the ram jam winds down we spit on thee that purchases from he.

Scaboo4u:)
 
You are another one who ordered from Ram controls and tried to say it was a test.

If you had read the thread, you would have seen that even Jim/Dan acknowledges there was no order placed. There are reasons for that situation that I won't discuss here, but it was a worthwhile exercise for the community. If that gets me grief, so be it. If my explanation doesn't satisfy you, that's fine too.
 
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No doubt he should be held accountable, but some of the names people are calling him are a little much..Let's not just pick on Scaboo4, remember there are others. One in particular that bought from Ram and posted about it only to go down the same route and tell everyone that they were F#*ked in the head. Seems people have forgot about him and chumin it up with him.

Wonder who you may be talking about there... thanks btw, I was trying to stay the f out of this garbage this time.

Oh well.

I can't help but agree a bit with GF though. Yes, everyone who buys from RAM is in the wrong. But not all of us search Google or this forum before we make a deal and this subforum is not exactly the most prominent thing on the board.

If you were aware of the ongoing stuff with RAM though (personally I dropped off the board for quite a while after he was finally fulfilling his SW yoke pre-orders, and had never heard that he was pre-selling full cockpits and not making good with the people who purchased credit until I got my ass handed to me in this subforum)... well I dunno in that case, it is a very sensitive topic for a lot of people here and if they want to enforce a trade ban against you that may be the proverbial bed you're stuck lying in now.
 
I already said buying from ram probably wasn't the smart thing to do. I also bought multi-boards,stuff made in china,and repro art as well. I didn't brag about buying from them. Just posting their info. I also said i would probably get a bunch of heat from doing this. So if you guys are close to being done kicking me around cursing me like my name is dan. I think there are more productive things everyone could be doing. With these things being said i will kick my own azz to make everyone happy.

Darn scaboo what in the heck were you thinking. You gotta be the dumbest ^%$%^ ^%^%$ that ever joined the forum.
As the ram jam winds down we spit on thee that purchases from he.

Scaboo4u:)

I think you would have had it if not for the Multi-board and repro artwork comments. All you're doing is pissing people off with those comparisons. If you are going to keep lumping those who buy Multi-boards with those who choose to buy from Ram knowing the Ram history then I may have to use one of those not so nice names others have called you.
 
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:mad: This thread is a testament to how Adam screwed the community over royally and that the effects extend far beyond people losing money. He has got the community beating the shit out of itself.



People making "black lists" and calling other members by vulgarities with tough talk about face to face confrontations is BS. Each member should be responsible for their own actions, but others should stay the hell out them if they aren't part of the deal. If others don't want to deal with them as a result so be it, but this gang up shit like you're in some kind of clan straight outta Compton is pathetic. Leave each member to go about their business as they see fit and let the chips fall where they may without all the infighting and personal attacks on other members. It's one thing to voice your opinion about RAM, but outward deliberate attacking of other members for their own personal collecting decisions is well, just damn annoying.

My $.02
 
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Yeah... but you've proven you couldn't give two shits about the community here by supporting and promoting RAM in the past here and on BYOAC so I'll go ahead and take your $.02 with a grain of salt.
 
Yeah... but you've proven you couldn't give two shits about the community here by supporting and promoting RAM in the past here and on BYOAC so I'll go ahead and take your $.02 with a grain of salt.

Everything I said here is opinion, so there is nothing that needs to be considered by you with your grain of salt as to whether is is true.

Anyway stop twisting what I've said in the past as supporting and promoting as it was clear my main concern at that time was that people were getting some sort of compensation back and you know that. I do understand you love to instigate though.:p

Anyway for the most part I really like the KLOV community, but there are a few here I couldn't give 2 shits about. Take a guess. You might get lucky.

Personally I think the way Mylstar responds to these toxic conversations about RAM is a model for all of us. He's a businessman with his head on straight.
 
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Im here to help the community as whole for the love of the game.
My choosing to Black List those who choose to buy and Support Ram
is a point I want to make perfectly clear and want everyone to know where I stand.
obviously I wont know every single person that buys from Ram unless outed here.

But my time, values, and product are worth more to me than helping those who only care about themselves and obviously not the community that was screwed out of thousands.

The "Ram Effect" will live on proably as long as the hobby itself.
Its divided collectors, made sales/preorders alot harder (for EVERYONE) and has made the hobby/fourms alot less fun.
Thanks Dave and Dan...I mean Adam and Jim or who ever you guys are this week :confused:
 
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