Parting out Sega Star Trek - Another One Bites the Dust!

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Heh... Those were the days :)

I still dont get why Ben had to do some personal attacks here considering I was just trying to discourage Pacray from parting out a Star Trek. It obvious that Ben has been stewing on those stories for a while.

I tried to discourage someone here just a few days ago from parting out a Track n Field. He didnt attack me :)
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=105594&highlight=track+field+jon

jon
 
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Sorry Jon that I came across harshly. My point is that everyone does stuff that isn't 100% cool or squeeky clean in the hobby...including myself. I obviously tried to drive the point home too hard & made it personal, which I shouldn't have. You're a good guy in the hobby and I didn't mean to stomp on you. My apologies.


Heh... Those were the days :)

I still dont get why Ben had to do some personal attacks here considering I was just trying to discourage Pacray from parting out a Star Trek.

I tried to discourage someone here just a few days ago from parting out a Track n Field. He didnt attack me :)
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=105594&highlight=track+field+jon

jon
 
Hey now.. settle down here.

My posts were joking the first couple, Ray knew damn well what the reference was with the garfield stuff and pretended not to know and asked me to spell out the connection which I did. He could have just laughed and had fun with it instead of acting like he knew nothing about it and challenged for an explanation of the 'connection'. Now, while I can understand perhaps not liking what the connection is, I do stand by my feeling that the parting of a perfectly good game is the opposite of what we are supposed to be about here.

Lots of us, including Jon have made plenty of multigames although honestly i've personally never made one or owned one.. jon's been doing it for years before he ever left florida but I've never once seen him kill a complete classic to do it, always used auction games or previously converted stuff. That's a big difference between gutting and converting classics to multigames and converting auction fodder, which was the general point of my posts here. Nothing personal for or against Ray the person, but simply voicing my displeasure of seeing *another* game vanish for no real good reason.

Anyway, people are entitled to their opinions and we all have them. However i'm not sure why it became personal against Jon or if that was necessary. People buy and sell games and parts every day, but this debate was not apples to apples. Using the argument of someone selling parts for more than they bought them for really doesn't compare to parting out classics, or does it?

Anyway, sorry it got out of hand and I was part of it. I still don't like parting games and i'll stand by that, but you bunch of colorado dorks need to kiss and make up. Focus the anger at me if you want to i'll be there soon enough to throw eggs at in person :) You're all good guys, but hey, if we never twist each others nipples when we start to cross a line what stops us from dancing over the line?
 
I hear ya, Brian, and you're exactly right! My apologies, too, to you and Jon for my part in this. I will send you guys a private PM, too....I feel really bad about it :( It's been a shitty week here & I shouldn't have interpretted the thread the way I did...I completely misread it.

Thanks
Ben

Hey now.. settle down here.

My posts were joking the first couple, Ray knew damn well what the reference was with the garfield stuff and pretended not to know and asked me to spell out the connection which I did. He could have just laughed and had fun with it instead of acting like he knew nothing about it and challenged for an explanation of the 'connection'. Now, while I can understand perhaps not liking what the connection is, I do stand by my feeling that the parting of a perfectly good game is the opposite of what we are supposed to be about here.

Lots of us, including Jon have made plenty of multigames although honestly i've personally never made one or owned one.. jon's been doing it for years before he ever left florida but I've never once seen him kill a complete classic to do it, always used auction games or previously converted stuff. That's a big difference between gutting and converting classics to multigames and converting auction fodder, which was the general point of my posts here. Nothing personal for or against Ray the person, but simply voicing my displeasure of seeing *another* game vanish for no real good reason.

Anyway, people are entitled to their opinions and we all have them. However i'm not sure why it became personal against Jon or if that was necessary. People buy and sell games and parts every day, but this debate was not apples to apples. Using the argument of someone selling parts for more than they bought them for really doesn't compare to parting out classics, or does it?

Anyway, sorry it got out of hand and I was part of it. I still don't like parting games and i'll stand by that, but you bunch of colorado dorks need to kiss and make up. Focus the anger at me if you want to i'll be there soon enough to throw eggs at in person :) You're all good guys, but hey, if we never twist each others nipples when we start to cross a line what stops us from dancing over the line?
 
Lol me too! Legendary!

The connection is, the same fate that befell those poor games also hit poor Star Trek. Dying a painful death only to become a multigame covered in garfield stickers. Don't buy games you don't want or have no intention of leaving whole, there's just too many empty or converted cabs out there to multigame without killing classics. There's just no reason to do it. Sad when a game like Star Trek makes it 25 years in one piece and good shape and then gets parted, painted and pimped for a buck.

I think there are some gross generalizations being made here, with very little knowledge or facts. The Garfield game was a converted, falling apart, water damaged Stargate cab that I got off CraigsList when no one else wanted it. It took a lot of work to remove the damaged parts, Bondo, sand and repair the game. Had I not converted it into a Multigame, I am pretty darn sure it would be sitting in the dump, or have gone up in smoke, instead of being appreciated and played in someone's home. Could I have converted it back to a Stargate? Sure. But I would never have gotten anything close to what it would have cost me in money or time, which means it wouldn't have happened.

Whether you purists like it or not, a lot of classics still exist today BECAUSE someone took the time and effort to convert them to a Multigame. So now instead of sitting in a dump somewhere, they are being played and appreciated as a thing of value. Kids are playing the classics and enjoying them, potentially bringing new people into the hobby.

Most of the games I buy to convert to a Multigame are broken and damaged. The few times I have bought a game that is in good shape, I have either traded it to someone for a game in worst condition, or kept it in original condition as much as possible, while converting it to a Multigame. (Jim? Can I get an Amen to that?)

Now as far as the Star Trek is concerned, my feelings on the issue is that it is a friggin wood grain cabinet, like Frogger or Zaxxon. Yes, it has side art, but otherwise there is no value in the cabinet that I can see whatsoever. If it were a Star Wars, it would be a different issue. In my mind, it is like someone complaining because you take out an original monitor and replace it with a new one. Sure it looks better, runs better and is more reliable, but it isn't original. How silly.

So Pork, I asked what the connection was between parting out the Star Trek and the Garfield game, not because I was "playing dumb", but because I wasn't sure if you were trying to be funny, sarcastic, or what. But in any case, I don't think you know enough about whom I am, or what I do to make assumptions such as the ones stated above in a public forum.

I could make the argument that by taking a beaten up damaged Pacman, making it look new, converting it to a Multigame, and selling it to someone for $2k as a thing of value, that I am doing more to benefit the hobby than any collector who simply hordes games for themselves, and criticizes anyone for taking arcade collecting to the next level. But then this wouldn't be the correct place for that argument. Maybe we can start a new thread under DISCUSSION.
 
Yes I know.

It's just one of those games that's worth more in parts than whole. I can't remember the last time I saw a Star Trek upright go for more than a few hundred, if that.

You could get a working cockpit for the value of these parts, and probably have money left over.

Well, you have now because I just bought one for a whole lot more than $200. Mine was completely restored and working 100% and it was a dedicated game though, not a conversion which I've been repeatedly told is worth a lot less.
 
I was under the assumption that this Star Trek was being parted out because the cabinet was beyond repair.
Please tell me you are not gonna destroy a perfectly good Star Trek Game. If you are SHAME ON YOU.:mad:
I see it's the one that was on Ebay in the convert a cabinet. Too bad your not closer, that's the only one I don't have in my collection.
http://members.cox.net/sverlander/Star_Trek_Asteroids_conversion.html
http://members.cox.net/sverlander/Star_Trek_dedicated_page.html
http://members.cox.net/sverlander/startrekcockpit_page.html

Too Bad,SHAME,SHAME,SHAME:p
 
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