Parting out games, at what point does it become acceptable?

Don't want to restore that beaten up Star Wars cabinet that you got in a bulk buy? I don't blame you a bit; that's a lot of hard work and a lot of dollars making it pristine again.

So don't turn it into a 60-1, sell it cheap to someone that wants to restore it. Hang on to it for a while if you possibly can. Put a 60-1 in it in a non-destructive manner and play it if that's what you want. Do the right thing for the hobby if it's at all reasonable to do so.

That's all I'm saying.


Sure, especially since there are probably 15-20 people on here at any given time that would build a 60-in-1 FOR you (in an old Ms. Pac cab), and trade it for your restorable Star Wars project. It's just making sure people are aware that there are options.

More times than not, I think the people trashing restorable classics, are somewhat newish to the hobby and may not know the value (intrinsic or sentimental) of their game. So they would probably appreciate a friendly offer. But instead, more often here, we see only finger-wagging admonishment (which isn't going to fix the issue).

So, I think we all mostly agree...preserve when reasonable. :001_ssmile:
 
For me it's a profit thing. My shop landlord doesn't take good will and sentimentality in lieu of money for rent. Neither do a thousand other vendors who expect money. And I always fall back on the idea that sometimes one must die so that others may live.

I think the big problem is just how cheap the game buyers are. If you won't pay $300 for a working tempest only missing a monitor, why would you expect me to sit on the $275 boardset I can sell in an hour?
 
why would you expect me to sit on the $275 boardset I can sell in an hour?

Did someone put a gun to your head and make you buy that Tempest? You could have let someone else get it that wanted to save it. You knew what you were getting yourself in to when you bought the game.

That said, games should only be parted when the cabinet is really wasted. Rarity should not be a factor. There are TONS of parts floating around, especially thanks to the mulitcade idiots and the greedy klovers, and the greedy klovers who are the multicade idiots.
 
Did someone put a gun to your head and make you buy that Tempest? You could have let someone else get it that wanted to save it. You knew what you were getting yourself in to when you bought the game.

That said, games should only be parted when the cabinet is really wasted. Rarity should not be a factor. There are TONS of parts floating around, especially thanks to the mulitcade idiots and the greedy klovers, and the greedy klovers who are the multicade idiots.



Do you really have nothing better to do than troll bump 7-month-old threads?

Games should be parted when you know there are needs for all of the parts, by other collectors. Including the cabs, as for most games there are just as many people needing cab swaps as they do other parts (especially for very popular games like Tempest and Asteroids, where many of the cabs are trashed and rotten).

Enough already.
 
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Do you really have nothing better to do than troll bump 7-month-old threads?

Games should be parted when you know there are needs for all of the parts, by other collectors. Including the cabs, as for most games there are just as many people needing cab swaps as they do other parts (especially for very popular games like Tempest and Asteroids, where many of the cabs are trashed and rotten).

Enough already.

Who the fuck is trolling ?

Parting out games with nice cabinets is almost as retarded as taking cheap shots at Bob Roberts while he is having health issues.
 
Who the fuck is trolling ?

Parting out games with nice cabinets is almost as retarded as taking cheap shots at Bob Roberts while he is having health issues.



You are trolling.

There's no reason to bump this 8-month-old thread, other than to stir up shit. (Why were you even reading this necro thread to begin with?)

You can keep going with the silly personal attacks, but again, I'm sorry facts hurt. Health issues don't change the fact that Bob sold junk parts that hurt a lot of games.

I feel no sympathy for anyone who takes peoples' money, sells a bogus product, and doesn't stand behind it. There are no idols.
 
You are trolling.
There's no reason to bump this 8-month-old thread, other than to stir up shit. (Why were you even reading this necro thread to begin with?)
Why do you care what I am reading and why I am reading it ?


You can keep going with the silly personal attacks, but again, I'm sorry facts hurt. Health issues don't change the fact that Bob sold junk parts that hurt a lot of games.

Who is the one making silly personal attacks ? Who is attacking Bob Roberts because some cap from a 10 dollar cap kit failed....

I feel no sympathy for anyone who takes peoples' money, sells a bogus product, and doesn't stand behind it. There are no idols.

I am not saying any of those caps weren't bad. I personally have never had one fail. Still have games running on them for 20 years now. That said, if a cap in a 10 dollar cap kit failed, big fucking deal. While you're at it, attack the guys making CPO's that crack where it bends after 6 months, and anyone that sells you a transistor that fails after 6 months. I have seen LV2000 burn up, might as well add those guys to your bonfire too.
 
Why do you care what I am reading and why I am reading it ?




Who is the one making silly personal attacks ? Who is attacking Bob Roberts because some cap from a 10 dollar cap kit failed....



I am not saying any of those caps weren't bad. I personally have never had one fail. Still have games running on them for 20 years now. That said, if a cap in a 10 dollar cap kit failed, big fucking deal. While you're at it, attack the guys making CPO's that crack where it bends after 6 months, and anyone that sells you a transistor that fails after 6 months. I have seen LV2000 burn up, might as well add those guys to your bonfire too.



Do you want to get meme'd?


Because that's how you become a meme.
 
If you bought the cabinet, do whatever the hell you want with it. It's yours. If parting it out allows others to have completed cabinets, then that's perfectly fine. It is YOUR PROPERTY.

If parting it out will also severely piss off some people here on the forums, then please part it out. Show pictures of it being taken apart. I like seeing people getting all pissed off over what OTHER PEOPLE DO WITH THEIR OWN PROPERTY!
 
Why do you care what I am reading and why I am reading it?


Because you are necrobumping an 8-month-old thread and adding nothing of new value to it. So either you're unintentionally violating forum norms (inexcusable for a veteran like you), or you're intentionally doing it to stir the pot.


Who is the one making silly personal attacks ? Who is attacking Bob Roberts because some cap from a 10 dollar cap kit failed....


There is a difference between an ad hominem attack, and calling someone out on their behavior. Google if you want to understand the difference.


I am not saying any of those caps weren't bad. I personally have never had one fail. Still have games running on them for 20 years now. That said, if a cap in a 10 dollar cap kit failed, big fucking deal. While you're at it, attack the guys making CPO's that crack where it bends after 6 months, and anyone that sells you a transistor that fails after 6 months. I have seen LV2000 burn up, might as well add those guys to your bonfire too.



Ok, let's tee these ones up:

If you're trying to minimize the issue by saying it's only a single cap here or there, you are incorrect. See my post in the BR thread. He chronically was selling the cheapest quality parts possible in his kits (for at least the last several years), and I have measured countless examples of failed boards with his kit parts on them. One (or even multiple) exceptions of still working monitors don't justify that fact. It isn't 'just one cap'.

Regarding the LV2000's, I regularly call out the fact that the LV2000's use underrated regulators that can and do fail, and that the other designs from Mark Spaeth and others use the beefier TO-220 1-amp regulators, which don't blow when shorted. See here for multiple examples:

https://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=419485 (see post #2)
https://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=423683 (see post #3)
https://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=421704 (see post #5)
https://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=401099 (see post #11)
https://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=416993 (see post #58)


HOWEVER, the difference here is that Jeff Hendrix actually stands behind his LV2000's, and will replace any dead one for free, as advertised on vector-repair.com. And that is why I have no problem continuing to recommend the LV2000's, albeit with the warning that they can fail.

The devil is in the details, my friend.
 
I for one enjoy with witty back and forth this debate often brings.

This is a "preservation society".

Yes you can do what you want with your stuff.

But if you are so thin-skinned that you can't be called out for doing so on this forum, too bad for you.

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this is not directed any anyone in particular (I wanted to be clear about that), more of a general statement.
 
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