paint type for red dk...semi gloss or satin??

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I ordered a vinyl kit for my red dk..but upon research I found that I also need to paint it as well. I need to know what type of paint to use? Semi gloss or satin? Oil base or latex? If I can't get oil base to match what is difficulty in using latex? Also I know I use foam roller..but how many coats and do I need to sand in between? If yes what grit paper do I use? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!!
 
I started prepping my DK resto for paint today. Tried a couple of different paint types and applicators. I decided not to spray as the finish was not close enough to the original. I went with satin latex and plan on rolling it on with a high density foam cabinet roller. I'll let you know how mine is coming along in a few days. The test samples came out pretty close to the original but we'll see how it looks on the side of the cab.
 
I started prepping my DK resto for paint today. Tried a couple of different paint types and applicators. I decided not to spray as the finish was not close enough to the original. I went with satin latex and plan on rolling it on with a high density foam cabinet roller. I'll let you know how mine is coming along in a few days. The test samples came out pretty close to the original but we'll see how it looks on the side of the cab.

Spraying is the only way to get a perfectly smooth finish like the original.
You might be able to get a small test piece smooth but the side of a cab is a different matter.
I sprayed mine with Sherwin Williams Pro Clasic waterbased,while laying on it's side and the finish is perfectly smooth.
Looks just like the original finish.
No roller will ever get it that smooth.
 
so i have one for satin then for the dk red? also how many coats do u do? and do u sand in between? what grit sandpaper do you use in between? do you sand final coat with a super fine sandpaper??


I started prepping my DK resto for paint today. Tried a couple of different paint types and applicators. I decided not to spray as the finish was not close enough to the original. I went with satin latex and plan on rolling it on with a high density foam cabinet roller. I'll let you know how mine is coming along in a few days. The test samples came out pretty close to the original but we'll see how it looks on the side of the cab.
 
I spray most everything I paint, but we'll see how the roller does. If it isn't up to my standards I'll sand and spray.
 
My main question is how many coats of paint to do with roller and what type grit sandpaper to use. U don't want to use too coarse or too fine paper and not end up with smooth. I used 320 after first coat of primer...then wet sanded with 600 after second...but don't know what type to use in between paint coats...and if I have to sand final coat and if yes what type....just don't want to meas up...I am planning on using vinyl after painting... don't know if that changes what type of sandpaper to use ...thanks again and sorry for all the questions!



I spray most everything I paint, but we'll see how the roller does. If it isn't up to my standards I'll sand and spray.
 
No roller will ever get it that smooth.
Because you are not skilled enough with YOUR roller. You are dead wrong, dude, sorry. It is much more difficult to get things really smooth with rollers but it can be done as well as spray and much cleaner as well. The BRAND and specific TYPE and SIZE of the roller is very important. The SPEED at which you paint a larger area with a roller is also very important. I speak from years personal experience. You will NOT get "super smooth" results using a paint roller your first time, unless you are incredible talented and experienced as a painter. I must add though, I am a fine artist with 30 years of fine art painting experience using every kind of paint and painting application imaginable. I love Sherwin Williams oil based paints, the paint quality rivals super expensive fine art oil paints in tubes, it's THAT good (and expen$ive!). Your milage will vary GREATLY with your personal ability to paint. Go ahead and flame me but I have at least one member on this forum that will verify my painting abilities.
Good luck!
 
Because you are not skilled enough with YOUR roller. You are dead wrong, dude, sorry. It is much more difficult to get things really smooth with rollers but it can be done as well as spray and much cleaner as well. The BRAND and specific TYPE and SIZE of the roller is very important. The SPEED at which you paint a larger area with a roller is also very important. I speak from years personal experience. You will NOT get "super smooth" results using a paint roller your first time, unless you are incredible talented and experienced as a painter. I must add though, I am a fine artist with 30 years of fine art painting experience using every kind of paint and painting application imaginable. I love Sherwin Williams oil based paints, the paint quality rivals super expensive fine art oil paints in tubes, it's THAT good (and expen$ive!). Your milage will vary GREATLY with your personal ability to paint. Go ahead and flame me but I have at least one member on this forum that will verify my painting abilities.
Good luck!

I don't think there are but a very few like you who can get a really smooth finish.
So how is a guy like the op going to acieve it since it seems he has little or no expeiriene at it?
I have seen some very nice rolled cabs,by experienced people and still not smooth enough for me.
Spraying is so much easier to learn and apply.
I have done both and will never roll again unless it is a wall. :D

Vader 400 grit should be sufficent to paint.
I used 320 and then 400.
 
So how is a guy like the op going to acieve it since it seems he has little or no expeiriene at it?
Time, patience and experience young one. It's almost a Zen/Yoda kinda deal, you are not hatched from an egg able to paint like Rembrant, just ain't gonna happen.
I have had to make many, many mistakes on many cabinets over years of time to share my experince with you. I never said I was perfect the first time, far from it. I have been very fortunate to be able to work on many cabinets the last few years and make lots of mistakes and learned from them. I learn as I go and it takes TIME. Spray has many issues also, temperature being a HUGE factor when attempting to paint in a Mid West winter, almost impossible to get any spray to look good at cold temperatures.
The NAP of the roller is critical. The nap must match the surface you are painting. Every cabinet is different. Just because the OP is saying he has a DK cab, doesn't imply what the cabinet sides or whatever area to be painting actually looks like. If it is rough, all spray will do it make it look worse. If the surface is perfectly smooth already, well, use a very short nap and a big roller and paint FAST. If it is not smooth, then make it smooth and then use a thicker nap, sand (400-1000) and repeat as neccessary. It took me 2 months of priming/painting/sanding to get the Pac cabaret I have been working on to look real nice. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...
 
First try at painting with a roller. Results are not bad, will know more in a few days when paint has cured completely. Not perfect but not bad. I try and not make my machines show room new, I leave a few small acrade battle scars (shows character or petina). I have not removed masking yet.
 

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didnt read all the posts but heres the deal.

unless your a REALLY good pro painter and are using the right kinda of paint and gun you simply CANT match the original sheen.

I offer the vinyl as an alternative which will give you the closest results
a nice smooth and uniform sheen that kinda plastic semigloss look you get from the Ninty cabs. Since most of us restoring these dont have access to or have states that will permit you to :D

But prep work is key
the vinyls are not 100% opaque so once youve done your repairs prime OR paint the cab
all you really need is a nice smooth even surface for the vinyl.
and it will adhere perfectly to the primer.
theres also NO reason to remove the entire orinigal finish this will help protect the wood just fix your bad spots give it a light sand and prime and apply.



 
i know pics can be decieving...but that looks not bad at all! good job!



First try at painting with a roller. Results are not bad, will know more in a few days when paint has cured completely. Not perfect but not bad. I try and not make my machines show room new, I leave a few small acrade battle scars (shows character or petina). I have not removed masking yet.
 
It's not perfect but I can live with it. The finish isn't glass smooth but that is not what I was trying for. I've seen some vinyl on cabs and it looks really good if it's done right. I have read where others have used a roller to paint cabs and thought I would give it a try. Overall I might use it again and encourage others to give it a chance.
 
Phetishboy has shown the best rolled cabs I've seen so far on this site..there may be better painters but his proof is in the pictures he posts...his success has convinced me that at least in some instances you can get a nice result with rolling....with of course some experience and the right paint and roller...along with surface prep too.
 
Luckily I don't have to paint my cab before the vinyl. I confirmed with rich at thisoldgsme.com that as long as I have a solid smooth surface...whether paint or primer...that the vinyl will turn out just fine...so I finished priming my cab with last coat...gonna wet sand tomorrow with 600 grit...then a buddy of mine who works with vinyl all day is gonna help me apply it. Hoping to get vinyl soon! Getting ancy to get it done!
 
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