pacman cocktail playing blind after blown fuse.

The filter cap is 600uF, charged to, say 170V (120V/0.707), and connected to ground via 230kohms. Seems to me like it should discharge pretty well in a matter of 5 or 10 minutes. In any case, never a bad idea to check the (DC) voltage on large capacitors before jacking around on a board. I usually just screwdriver-short, because I rarely see more than single-digit voltage remaining on caps I encounter.

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they hold charge. for days. ask me how I know. lol
 
so is it possible it's not the flyback? Feels like I should replace it either way. It looks like the flybacks are for both the 19 and 13". I feel like it's 19, I could measure it, but it's pretty large.
 
so is it possible it's not the flyback? Feels like I should replace it either way. It looks like the flybacks are for both the 19 and 13". I feel like it's 19, I could measure it, but it's pretty large.
it is 19" yes. the FBO can take the replacement flybacks but you have to do width cap mods to fix the shrunken width.
 
yeah, if you say @security0001 's name 3 times he'll appear with a list of product for you to buy. this is a G07, right?

caps: https://www.arcadepartsandrepair.co...ors/electrohome-g07-cbo-monitor-cap-kit-105c/
flyback: https://www.arcadepartsandrepair.co...or-flybacks/a-29951b-electrohome-go7-flyback/

chances are your F901 is blown, which means the filter cap will be charged, so stop trying to power the monitor immediately. lol you will thus need to discharge it with screwdrivers or the more safer approach is discharging through a very large resistor. use caution when removing the deflection board, you can ground it against the metal frame and that won't be good.

fuses: https://www.arcadepartsandrepair.co...-25a-250v-axial-leaded-fuse-5x15mm-fast-blow/
usually only once and i will appear and deliver anything that the game needs... ;)

if the OP needs any help just ask as i am happy to help.
 
so is it possible it's not the flyback? Feels like I should replace it either way. It looks like the flybacks are for both the 19 and 13". I feel like it's 19, I could measure it, but it's pretty large.
it's generally encouraged you replace the flyback along with the new caps. there's a select few tough guys on here that think that's a waste of money or something and that old flybacks don't blow up with new caps. they can, but for the effort you're going to make taking the chassis out to service it, wouldn't it make sense to just do it all right the first time and it continue to work for years?

plus the old flyback anode cups being total trash to handle is, in my opinion, reason enough to replace the flyback.

you may need a new HOT also, with the power obviously off, put meter on diode test, black probe to the monitor frame/copper heatsink wall (not the black one on voltage regulator side, as it's painted and insulated) and touch the red probe to the casing of the HOT. if it reads shorted or the numbers are low, it's bad and you'll need a new one. shorted HOT or bad flyback can blow F901, it's in my experience that fuse won't just blow for its amusement, it means something in the horizontal deflection section is bad.
 
usually only once and i will appear and deliver anything that the game needs... ;)

if the OP needs any help just ask as i am happy to help.

I need basically everything to reservice the chassis on this g07. I actually think I have a cap kit that I had ordered from before, but I need the 2 fuses on the chassis, the flyback, and the HOT, which I really know nothing about haha, but if you could link me to everything you think I should get to be safe, that would be a massive help!.
it's generally encouraged you replace the flyback along with the new caps. there's a select few tough guys on here that think that's a waste of money or something and that old flybacks don't blow up with new caps. they can, but for the effort you're going to make taking the chassis out to service it, wouldn't it make sense to just do it all right the first time and it continue to work for years?

plus the old flyback anode cups being total trash to handle is, in my opinion, reason enough to replace the flyback.

you may need a new HOT also, with the power obviously off, put meter on diode test, black probe to the monitor frame/copper heatsink wall (not the black one on voltage regulator side, as it's painted and insulated) and touch the red probe to the casing of the HOT. if it reads shorted or the numbers are low, it's bad and you'll need a new one. shorted HOT or bad flyback can blow F901, it's in my experience that fuse won't just blow for its amusement, it means something in the horizontal deflection section is bad.

alright I'm going to give this a try. What should the reading be ideally?
 
I need basically everything to reservice the chassis on this g07. I actually think I have a cap kit that I had ordered from before, but I need the 2 fuses on the chassis, the flyback, and the HOT, which I really know nothing about haha, but if you could link me to everything you think I should get to be safe, that would be a massive help!.


alright I'm going to give this a try. What should the reading be ideally?
not shorted?
 
haha yeah I'm a total noob at this, how do you check this?

"Shorted" is electronics lingo to mean essentially "electrically connected directly together". A wire joining 2 points can be said to "short" those 2 points. You can check for "shorts" using resistance or continuity mode on a meter. They will read at or near 0 ohms. Sometimes transistors go bad such that they (internally) short 2 of their legs together. This is what is being suggested to check for.

Another way to check a transistor is to use "diode check mode". On your Fluke 107, I believe this shares with resistance mode (a greek omega symbol) and continuity test mode (several curved lines, indicating a beep). It's a diode symbol, which is an arrow head in a line with a perpendicular line across the tip of it the arrow's point. You'll probably need to press a button to cycle between those 3 modes. An indicator on the display should indicate which mode you're in.

In any case, you'll be checking pairs of legs of the 3-legged transistor for shorts (or for the forward bias voltage, if using diode-test mode).
Note that the transistor is usually removed from the circuit for this testing; there may be times they can be tested in-circuit, but that's beyond the scope of this discussion. Yes, de-solder the horizontal output transistor and pull it out to test it.
 
if you have a short between the casing of the transistor (collector) and the frame of the monitor (emitter), the transistor is bad. so it's at least a very simple test.

when we did it last weekend on a guy's "dead" G07 it registered something like 1000 on our student grade meters. the F901 and HOT were both good, it wound up being the C511 B+ filter cap was reading like 38 picofarads or something absurd. replacing just that cap got it running again. lol
 
I need basically everything to reservice the chassis on this g07. I actually think I have a cap kit that I had ordered from before, but I need the 2 fuses on the chassis, the flyback, and the HOT, which I really know nothing about haha, but if you could link me to everything you think I should get to be safe, that would be a massive help!.


alright I'm going to give this a try. What should the reading be ideally?




here are the parts links you asked for.
 
thanks so much everyone! Gonna order the parts and give this a sincere try. I'm just not great at soldering, but going to take my time. If I feel it's out of my league I'm going to send it out for a refurb.
 
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