Oversized Crusin World LCD screen size?

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I am looking to convert my Crusin Worlds to LCD, as with these 3D-model games LCDs actually look good and the tubes on these monitors seem to expire quicker than fresh fruit.

I remember recently a trend kind of started where people would put these oversized widescreen LCD TV screens in that barely fit in the cabinet, set the aspect ratio to 4:3 and literally cover up the now-unused sides of the TV, and due to the giant oversize of the TV even the smaller square 4:3 portion would fill the bezel and serve as a perfect replacement for a 25" CRT. No stretching of the image, and a total fill of the original square screen area, and no letterboxing (besides what is on purpose). It looked REALLY good and was totally the perfect solution at last. Anybody know what size that was? Any good threads to link to for the conversion and mounting?

 

[john2654]

The ones they were squeezing in is a 32" widescreen set to 4:3 which gets you a better size.

I was lazy and just left it as 16:9 and used a Dell 27" LCD.

 

[LyonsArcade]

Insignia Ns-32 D312 monitor, make sure if you don't get that one you get one that turns on automatically when power is reapplied... This particular one I had to actually take the frame off and cut it back a little bit to barely get it to fit, you may be able to find one that will fit without doing that. I'd go to Wal mart or Best Buy, find the biggest one that will fit, then unplug it and plug it back in right there on the display and see if it comes back on, lol.

 

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This one was recommended in another thread, but he had to decase the TV AND chisel wood away on the cabinet.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-32-class-led-720p-hdtv/6311202.p?skuId=6311202

Going to see if I can find one that I can avoid chiseling the wood with, even if I need to decase. Will check your suggestions Lyon... did that one fit without any modifications to the cabinet? (I know the monitor was modified)

 

[LyonsArcade]

Yes it fit just fine after we shaved about 1/2" off the case, maybe slightly less... after talking to my brother he seems to remember that we took the mounting brackets off, and remounted them using one bolt hole so it moved it all forward a little bit making the monitor more flush with the bezel. We didn't cut any holes or drill anything though. When we got it close enough to the bezel, we installed a peg board as a support then screwed the monitor to the peg board from the back. Ended up like this:

 

[Hydreigon]

This one was recommended in another thread, but he had to decase the TV AND chisel wood away on the cabinet.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/insignia-32-class-led-720p-hdtv/6311202.p?skuId=6311202

Going to see if I can find one that I can avoid chiseling the wood with, even if I need to decase. Will check your suggestions Lyon... did that one fit without any modifications to the cabinet? (I know the monitor was modified)

Using the exact same TV for my two Motocross Go machines and they fit length wise without having to chisel either the TV or wood. A proper HDMI converter is required because this TV doesn't have a VGA port.

 

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Using the exact same TV for my two Motocross Go machines and they fit length wise without having to chisel either the TV or wood. A proper HDMI converter is required because this TV doesn't have a VGA port.

That game probably has different cabinet dimensions than the Crusin series.

Just tried a 32" I had laying around for other purposes and it definitely is not fitting without some modifications. I am surprised decasing these things helps at all, the cases are so thin nowadays to begin with.

The other guy said he shaved the cabinet and decased the monitor, so it was probably just another way of doing what Lyon did to the monitor itself, either works... shaving the monitor is probably the better option, but is also a little more daunting

 

[LyonsArcade]

Yeah basically I took the case off, then looked really closely at how much room there was between it and the lcd screen, cut it down to where it was really close, then put the case back on it, I basically cut about half the case off each side. It left it where it was just barely not touching each side of the cabinet.

 

[keithsarcade]

The stretch never bothered me with the Cruis'n games. I have 2 USA cabs. One has USA and World in it, the other has Exotica and Off Road Challenge. Both have Insignia 29" LED TV's. This is the biggest size available to my knowledge without decasing the screen and/or shaving the cabinet. Mounted with pegboard and they hug the glass. No CRT bezel, I cut new ones out of black poster board which happens to be the perfect size. Both games look great.

 

[LyonsArcade]

The stretch never bothered me with the Cruis'n games. I have 2 USA cabs. One has USA and World in it, the other has Exotica and Off Road Challenge. Both have Insignia 29" LED TV's. This is the biggest size available to my knowledge without decasing the screen and/or shaving the cabinet. Mounted with pegboard and they hug the glass. No CRT bezel, I cut new ones out of black poster board which happens to be the perfect size. Both games look great.

I have created this handy reference chart, to show why you do not want the game in stretched mode.

 

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I have created this handy reference chart, to show why you do not want the game in stretched mode.

Handy indeed...
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[Pinballdad94]

Is there a replacement bezel people are using for this conversion?

 

[purbeast]

Do these flat panel TVs that people are recommending have any input lag?

 

[Hydreigon]

Do these flat panel TVs that people are recommending have any input lag?

Short answer: Yes. Long answer: It isn't really noticeable (even with a crappy chinese HDMI converter).

 

[purbeast]

Short answer: Yes. Long answer: It isn't really noticeable (even with a crappy chinese HDMI converter).

What kind of input lag are we talking about here?

I used to play fighters competitively on consoles and once I went to the Evo standard "lagless" monitor, I am super finnicky about input lag. Like my buddy who has always played on DLP tv's didn't even realize his TV had lag.

For reference, I believe the monitor I am referring to had about 11ms of input lag. My projector is in the low 30's and even on that I can't really notice as that is still under 2 frames. But one reason I got my projector was specifically because of the low input lag it has.

And the reason I am asking is because I just picked up 2 Rush 2049 cabinets and while I don't plan on doing this any time soon, it would be good just to know for the future if I decided to maybe do it.

 

[LyonsArcade]

What kind of input lag are we talking about here?

I am super finnicky about input lag.

If you're finicky about lag you're definitely going to notice lag on these.

 

[purbeast]

If you're finicky about lag you're definitely going to notice lag on these.

Gotcha. Any idea on the actual number of ms the lag is? I googled input lag for that model but didn't come across anything. I also searched on displaylag database and it wasn't on there.

I really doubt I would do the conversion unless the monitors simply go out. My one cabinet is having a monitor issue but I've narrowed it down to the vsize pot on the remote board and have a replacement pot on the way, so crossing my fingers that it solves it.

 

[keithsarcade]

Apples and oranges. If there is lag it's minimal and won't hinder the gameplay experience like it will with a fighter, beat 'em up or shooter. Driving games are much more casual, especially the Cruis'n series.

 

[keithsarcade]

I have created this handy reference chart, to show why you do not want the game in stretched mode.

 

[purbeast]

Apples and oranges. If there is lag it's minimal and won't hinder the gameplay experience like it will with a fighter, beat 'em up or shooter. Driving games are much more casual, especially the Cruis'n series.

Lag is lag. I don't like playing any games with lag. Lag in a racer would be terrible. When I turn the wheel, I want my car to turn as the wheel turns.

I know some people don't really care about it, but I do. My one friend who gamed on a DLP for years doesn't bet bothered by the input lag on it. And itt's like over 80ms of lag.