Opinions wanted: repair an Atari VCS 2600 or mod a Flashback 2?

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Opinions wanted: repair an Atari VCS 2600 or mod a Flashback 2?

So I've been meaning for years to refurbish my old Atari system. I've had it since it was new and back in the day things broke and at least once I tried a very bad repair of the joystick port. I finally got around to checking it out and here is where it stands now:

One Joystick port is completely gone. I think I removed it a long time ago. So I will need to buy and solder on a new one. The on off switch is broken and it looks like its missing the little metal bars that go under the slider switch. Not sure if I'll need to buy a whole new switch or if I can find a substitute for the metal contacts. Obviously its old and dirty so it will need a good cleaning but I powered it up and it seems to work. I couldn't start any games because the broken joystick port is player one. While looking for replacement parts I found a Flashback 2 on eBay complete and in-box for $25 so I grabbed it. I'm thinking about going one of two ways and would like to know your opinions:

1. I could clean the original VCS (its a 4 switch woody btw), fix/replace the on/off switch, replace the joystick port (either buy one or use one off the flashback) and use the joysticks from the flashback and backups/replacements for the originals. I would also need to perform the video output mod so that I can bypass the RF modulator and get better signal with composite output.

2. I could do the cartridge port mod on the flashback 2 and just use it (I could use the cartridge port of the VCS or buy a new one). This might be the easiest option but would there be much lost in playing on the flashback instead of the original (heck I could even put the guts in the VCS case for kicks)? I understand the Flashback 2 is "VCS on a chip" but I"m not 100% sure what that means and how true to the original it is or what might be lost. I'm not a HUGE purist and its mostly about nostalgia for me but some of that nostalgia is the physical console itself.

What's the consensus?
 
Huh, that's a quandary for sure. I'm still running on an old black box thru RF and the signal is a little grainy/fuzzy, which does kind of suck, but it's still playable. I'm also running the Harmony cart in my old system, which is basically all the VCS cartridges on a chip and they all play fine, so if I was you I'd probably just play the flashback for now until you can find a broken system to fix your original. Then I'd find a Harnony cart and load it up.
 
Huh, that's a quandary for sure. I'm still running on an old black box thru RF and the signal is a little grainy/fuzzy, which does kind of suck, but it's still playable. I'm also running the Harmony cart in my old system, which is basically all the VCS cartridges on a chip and they all play fine, so if I was you I'd probably just play the flashback for now until you can find a broken system to fix your original. Then I'd find a Harnony cart and load it up.

"Broken system to fix my original" was the mentality I had towards the flashback. Except for the On/off switch which I now think I can repair, the flashback has all the parts I need to fix my original. And at $25 I figured it was a better deal than an old broken one since it comes with 2 new joysticks.
 
why not just buy a modded woodgrain from ebay or someone on atariage?

Because those things are going for crazy prices now. Pretty much the same reasons I'm here for cheap project arcades instead of the several thousand dollar perfect restores, major havocs and EDOT's. Even the craphole resale shop in town wants $70 for a console, 2 joysticks, and a game (not refurbed either). Why pay that money if I already have one? I'm sure on occasion you can find them but not that frequently and then you have to be the lucky first guy to snatch it since they are so popular right now.
 
Because those things are going for crazy prices now. Pretty much the same reasons I'm here for cheap project arcades instead of the several thousand dollar perfect restores, major havocs and EDOT's. Even the craphole resale shop in town wants $70 for a console, 2 joysticks, and a game (not refurbed either). Why pay that money if I already have one? I'm sure on occasion you can find them but not that frequently and then you have to be the lucky first guy to snatch it since they are so popular right now.

Really? I thought I bought my modded heavy sixer for like $75 from atariage...that was two years ago I think
 
I recently got a heavy sixer on CL for $20. Turned out to not work, but it looks like it should be an easy fix when I have time to get to it.
 
Wow, nice find! I've got my eye out but haven't seen any cheap locally. But I still don't think my plan is bad. For only $5 more than that I got two new joysticks and the parts needed to get my 4 switch woody working. I'd love a heavy sixer in any condition so I'm still watching CL and the resale shops.
 
Thought I'd come update this thread and say that I got my Atari completely repaired and back up and running. I had to do a bunch of cleaning to the cartridges and the game but its all '80's goodness now! I still need to clean and restore my paddles since the pots in them are unusable as is. Glad I bought the flashback though. Both of my original Joysticks aren't working so I'll use the flashback ones (which are pretty good actually) till I fix them.

I just ordered the S-Video and Pause kits yesterday as well as a bunch of soldering essentials to hopefully help with my weak skills in that area.
 
I still need to clean and restore my paddles since the pots in them are unusable as is. Glad I bought the flashback though.

Spray some contact cleaner (or WD-40 if you want to go really quick and dirty) in the pots and they'll work like new.
 
Cool deal, glad you got it working. I need to get to mine sometime soon, maybe after some of the arcade stuff I've been putting off for far too long.

Is there a good resource someplace for 2600 repair logs or anything?
 
Spray some contact cleaner (or WD-40 if you want to go really quick and dirty) in the pots and they'll work like new.

Common consensus is that doing that is a bit no-no and will not be good for the long term health of your paddles.

Cool deal, glad you got it working. I need to get to mine sometime soon, maybe after some of the arcade stuff I've been putting off for far too long.

Is there a good resource someplace for 2600 repair logs or anything?

Yes, I found several resources that helped a lot. I'll dig them up when I get on my laptop next time and post them here.
 
Do you plan to play a lot of homebrews from your Harmony? I have a modded FlashBack2 and quite a large number of homebrews do not work on the FB2.
 
I'm not using the Flashback. I used it for parts to get my real 2600 completely working. I'm also not sure yet if I'm getting a harmony. I think I'll collect actual cartridges for now as long I can find ones cheap. I'll get a Harmony down the road if I find a homebrew or original that I really want and can't find a cart for (or don't want to pay the price). I haven't really jumped on the Homebrew bandwagon on any platform yet.
 
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