Ok, Waterworld Pin. Whast so bad?

[Silverunicorn]

I loved the Waterworld movie. Seriously.

The pin....well, I think it does play well, but for me, I would not own one because of the voice calls. I find the sound package to be obnoxious, but that may just be me.

"10 Kilos of pure dirt!" Ugh.

Chris

 

[pudluther]

ok, i just watched waterworld on netflix streaming.....actually, i think that's the first time i've made it through.

i wouldn't say i loved it by any stretch, but it's not THAT bad.....better than starship troopers for sure.

 

[elfyhead]

starship troopers was an atrocious movie, based on a wonderful book. they got soooo many things wrong in that movie. never played the pin.

played a Judge Dredd pin yesterday at a local pinhead's house (there to buy a Funhouse from him) for the first time - really liked it. hated the movie though, and not a big fan of Sly's voice in the pin ...

 

[RussMyers]

played a Judge Dredd pin yesterday at a local pinhead's house (there to buy a Funhouse from him) for the first time - really liked it. hated the movie though, and not a big fan of Sly's voice in the pin ...

Ummmm....just to set this straight - the Judge Dredd pin is based solely on the British Comic Book, and really has nothing to do with the (hideously bad) film with Stallone. The film was only very, very loosely inspired by the comic book. Judge Dredd (the comic) is almost unknown in the US, except by real comic-freaks, but is very popular in the UK and Germany.

Stallone's voice is not used in the JD pin at all - nothing from the movie is used. Of course, the JD pin was released to coincide with the movie release, but they really have little to nothing to do with each other. (Thank goodness)

RussM

 

[elfyhead]

Ummmm....just to set this straight - the Judge Dredd pin is based solely on the British Comic Book, and really has nothing to do with the (hideously bad) film with Stallone. The film was only very, very loosely inspired by the comic book. Judge Dredd (the comic) is almost unknown in the US, except by real comic-freaks, but is very popular in the UK and Germany.

Stallone's voice is not used in the JD pin at all - nothing from the movie is used. Of course, the JD pin was released to coincide with the movie release, but they really have little to nothing to do with each other. (Thank goodness)

RussM

i apologize - it sounded like him to me, and i must have been expecting it. again, i was there really to pick up the Funhouse, so wasn't paying *that* much attention.

 

[RareHero]

i apologize - it sounded like him to me, and i must have been expecting it. again, i was there really to pick up the Funhouse, so wasn't paying *that* much attention.

Maybe you were playing Demolition man?

 

[elfyhead]

Maybe you were playing Demolition man?

no, definitely judge dredd. the toy in the upper left is pretty unforgettable. but i *did* have Demolition Man on the brain, because the guy i bought the Funhouse from was going to trade it for a DM if i didn't buy it. the mind works in mysterious ways...

 

[RareHero]

So what about the $1400.00 I paid. Did I get a good deal?

Hmmmm... maybe not. I think Waterworld is a tough sell at $1200 or even $1000. Not because it's terrible or anything - but you have to compare it to other pinballs you can get for $1400....you can get some really sweet B/W games (with questionable licenses) for $1200-1400: Dracula, Dr. Who, Judge Dredd, Demolition Man, Johnny Mnemonic, Congo, World Cup Soccer '94, etc....due to that, Gottlieb games like Waterworld are usually cheaper. IMO, a "good deal" would be any Sega or Gottlieb DMD for less than $1000....cuz then you know you'll break even or make a few bucks when you try to sell it.

Then again, if this Waterworld is SUPER mint...to the extent that you don't have to spend any time or money fixing anything, and you really enjoy it - then hey, maybe it is a good deal!

 

[mhkohne]

I don't get why everyone hated the movie. I thought it was cool.

I haven't played the game, but on the occasions I've seen it, the back glass has not pulled me in.

I think the dislike of the movie comes from several factors. Costner didn't really turn in all that interesting of a performance. Competent, sure, but nothing to write home about.

The pirates in the old tanker were more than a little odd (where'd the jet skis come from again? And how did they keep them running for several generations?).

The girl with the ink on her back: I'm supposed to believe that the parents, lacking any other suitable storage method, inked the information into their child's back? That's gotta hurt, and take a long time, and the kid would have been pretty small. I sure as hell wouldn't have wanted to hear the kid scream that length of time.

The big WTF moment in the movie for me was the 'diving bell' scene where Costner takes someone down to look at the sunken city. You're telling me that a guy who has gills takes up the the space and weight of that diving bell on that little boat? That makes about as much sense as the pressurized tent that they pulled out in Moontrap.

The basic ideas of Waterworld (dry land drowned due to climate change, mutant guy with gills, search for last bits of dry land, bad guys in old ships) are all fine, but were ruined by lazy writing and a stupid urge to do 'cool stuff' that didn't make any freaking sense.

It didn't help that they spent absurd amounts of money on stuff that would have been better done by building a big pond somewhere.

 

[mwong168]

The most important thing is you enjoy the title and who cares what other people think. If the condition is mint and plays 100% then I'd say you got a very good deal but the only downfall is the demand when it comes to flip might be what haunts you down the road unless someone is looking for this particular title. The only Gottlieb title I have played in real life is Wipeout and if I had other pins in my collection I could have got this for $850cdn delivered and setup at my place. I passed because I wanted my first pin to be either Williams or Bally simply because parts seemed to be more readily available and most of my collector friends here were more familiar with them so if I needed help I had someone to turn to. But for $850 and it came with DMD, ramps and some neat playfield toys such as the ski lift it was pretty good bank for buck.

Another great title already mentioned here is Congo. I can think of 3 serious collectors I know who have "A-list" titles such as MB, CV, TOM, IJ (Williams), TOTAN and a Congo in their collection and when I asked if they would sell or trade it they say no.

 

[mhkohne]

The most important thing is you enjoy the title and who cares what other people think. If the condition is mint and plays 100% then I'd say you got a very good deal but the only downfall is the demand when it comes to flip might be what haunts you down the road unless someone is looking for this particular title.
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Good point - and we all know that the values move all over the place over time. So as long as the OP bought the machine to play, he got a very good deal.