No Cap Kit available, Need to make one from Scratch - Where do I start?

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No Cap Kit available, Need to make one from Scratch - Where do I start?

Hello KLOV:

I have a questions regarding cap kits. This isn't necessarily specific to arcades in this particular case, but it can definitely apply to them. I have an old Tandy CM-5 RGB monitor for my Tandy 1000 HX computer that seems to be having some issues. It looks okay, but after a bit of time on I can clearly smell the distinct odor of burning electronics. Also occasionally the video signal goes to just blue.

Given it's age, it's probably reasonable that some caps probably need replacing. However, I have not been able to find anywhere online that sells cap kits for this particular monitor. So it seems I'd have to assemble my own. My question is where do I start?

I know that I obviously need to check all the values and types of the capacitors on the board and then order suitable replacements, but is that really all there its to it? Most of the time when I have gotten cap kits in the past, they usually don't cover ALL of the caps on the board. It seems filter caps are typically bought separately, but even beyond that I've noticed that the kits for the Electrohome G07 from ArcadeShop, for instance, replace all but a few caps on the board.

Why is that? Are those just caps that aren't particularly known for going bad or aren't critical? Is there something else that goes into making a new cap kit for a monitor I'm not aware of?

In general, what should I do if I need to cap a monitor that nobody is selling a cap kit for?
 
If someone is selling kits that do not replace all of the standard electrolytic caps, I wouldn't buy from them again.

Yes pull you chassis and see if you can identify all the values needed. I stock almost every value capacitor, so when I work on something like you are describing, I just pull the old cap and replace it.

If you get all of the values verified, security0001 can probably make you a kit.
 
Most of the time when I have gotten cap kits in the past, they usually don't cover ALL of the caps on the board. It seems filter caps are typically bought separately, but even beyond that I've noticed that the kits for the Electrohome G07 from ArcadeShop, for instance, replace all but a few caps on the board.

It's because they are going from capkit listings that are over 20 years old. When capkits first came out, they only included the most common capacitors which were failing at the time. Now monitors are over 30 years old and every electrolytic capacitor should be replaced and the main filter capacitor should at least be tested/checked for signs of leakage. Some capkit suppliers have not updated their kits and are still using lists made over 20 years ago.

Too bad you don't have a CM-11 because I made a capkit list and repair guide for that model. It is located here:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...FpbnxtdHBhY2lmaWNvfGd4OjJkNWFiYTFiMjkwNGE1NmI

Your CM-5 is also known as Radio Shack Cat # 25-1023 monitor.
 
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theres also 2 different monitors called the cm5, both one thats more rounded and one thats more squared. i havent pulled mine apart, but i would suspect they're different internally
 
Hello KLOV:

I have a questions regarding cap kits. This isn't necessarily specific to arcades in this particular case, but it can definitely apply to them. I have an old Tandy CM-5 RGB monitor for my Tandy 1000 HX computer that seems to be having some issues. It looks okay, but after a bit of time on I can clearly smell the distinct odor of burning electronics. Also occasionally the video signal goes to just blue.

Given it's age, it's probably reasonable that some caps probably need replacing. However, I have not been able to find anywhere online that sells cap kits for this particular monitor. So it seems I'd have to assemble my own. My question is where do I start?

I know that I obviously need to check all the values and types of the capacitors on the board and then order suitable replacements, but is that really all there its to it? Most of the time when I have gotten cap kits in the past, they usually don't cover ALL of the caps on the board. It seems filter caps are typically bought separately, but even beyond that I've noticed that the kits for the Electrohome G07 from ArcadeShop, for instance, replace all but a few caps on the board.

Why is that? Are those just caps that aren't particularly known for going bad or aren't critical? Is there something else that goes into making a new cap kit for a monitor I'm not aware of?

In general, what should I do if I need to cap a monitor that nobody is selling a cap kit for?


cap kits that are incomplete are cheap and personally a waste of time and all our kits are designed around replacing EVERY electrolytic cap on the chassis. our kits hands down have the best quality caps of any vendor out there even the ones that sell nichicon kits which are nothing like ours since we use 4000-10,000 hour caps and no kit from any other vendor on a chassis i have ever seen them use anything better than 500-1000 hour caps. remember ten times better caps will cost slightly more than other vendor kits but how often to you want to redo your work.
 
If someone is selling kits that do not replace all of the standard electrolytic caps, I wouldn't buy from them again.

Yes pull you chassis and see if you can identify all the values needed. I stock almost every value capacitor, so when I work on something like you are describing, I just pull the old cap and replace it.

If you get all of the values verified, security0001 can probably make you a kit.

Sweet! I may have to hit him up once I get the chance to properly inventory all the caps I need.
 
Something seems to have messed up with those links, it's not showing anything for me. Not even when I copy and paste them in their entirety.

(fixed links)--->

Must be a later version:
http://www.trs-80.com/images/ads/ad-cm-5-rgbi-monitor-1000-[25-1043]-(rs).jpg

Original version:
http://www.trs-80.com/images/ads/ad-cm-5-rgbi-color-monitor-[25-1023]-(rs).jpg

The CM-11 which I made a repair guide:
http://www.trs-80.com/images/ads/ad-cm-11-rgbi-color-monitor-[25-1024]-(rs).jpg
 
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