Neo geo noob!

[PrairieDillo]

metal slug 2 recommended?no way,its a failure,full of slowdowns

They all have slowdown so you just have to get used to it. It's not a big deal to me. I prefer #2 compared to #3. I just like it and have had debates with plenty of friends.

It's just an opinion dude. Take a breath and relax. I prefer Capcom fighters to SNK also. Don't go telling me my opinion isn't worth it because I don't prefer MVS Fighters. I respect that they are decent but I really just think that they were limited by the technology and didn't fair well onto beter systems like SF3: 3rd Strike or even MvC2. I just don't want to get into a debate.

CvSNK is a perfect comparison where it was way better than SVC: Chaos.

This thread should stay on topic. There are many decent carts to get. It really depends on the OP preferences.

 

[oyama82]

Keyword: Alternative. Yes, I remember the 16-bit wars and beyond. Nintendo won out. When was the last Sega console made? Who had to save Sega's Sonic franchise by licensing their games? Oh yeah, Nintendo. And I never said the newer Mario games were better than the old ones.

nintendo won finally,but we dont care for the hardware,we care for the software
both mario and sonic get worse all these years(sonic more ok),but still both are on our hearts,equal for most people I can tell
sonic 4 is a fantastic comeback,have you try it?

 

[nesjess]

that your country is not good at fighting games its a fact,I am not the only one saying that,you cant compare at all to asian players
me and my country neither can compare of course
its an insult for me telling that kof and ss are not as good as sf,you throw away a whole history and a whole community of millions which they follow these games(at least kof for sure)

Again, I never said that American players are better than Asian players. Just said that they are competitive. You're the one claiming that I said Americans were better. To briefly recap:

You said "Americans suck at fighting games"
I said "Americans are competitive even in EVO"
You said "Asians are better"
I said "I never said Asians were bad"
You said "Americans can't compare"
Now I'm saying "I never said Americans were better"

"Not as good" means it's still good, just "not as." So I don't see how that is insulting. Again, I think SS and KoF are decent games and have had successful franchises. They are just not as good as Street Fighter IN MY OPINION. You don't have to like it, but you don't have to be insulting. Why all of the hate?

 

[oyama82]

They all have slowdown so you just have to get used to it. It's not a big deal to me. I prefer #2 compared to #3. I just like it and have had debates with plenty of friends.

It's just an opinion dude. Take a breath and relax. I prefer Capcom fighters to SNK also. Don't go telling me my opinion isn't worth it because I don't prefer MVS Fighters. I respect that they are decent but I really just think that they were limited by the technology and didn't fair well onto beter systems like SF3: 3rd Strike or even MvC2. I just don't want to get into a debate. CvSNK is a perfect comparison where one was way better than the other.

This thread should stay on topic. There are many decent carts to get. It really depends on the OP preferences.

metal slug 2 slowdonwn is too annoying,remember snk replaced it with metal slug x.I prefer also x than 3
cvsnk is known to be mediocre game
I understand you americans dont like much mvs fighters,its a regional matter maybe,snk was never succesful in usa unlike the other world

 

[nesjess]

MasterFygar, I apologize for ruining your thread with our debate. I should have started a new thread, but I didn't think the debate would go far. I've said what I've had to say. Much love Oyama, I didn't mean to start an argument. We can just agree to disagree and move on. Though, one thing I agree with you is that it is a regional thing. Maybe if I grew up in Asia or Europe, I'd have more love for KoF.

 

[oyama82]

Why all of the hate?

oh there is no hate! really,just chatting about games
I say about your country all the time,because sometimes you forget that you arent alone in this world,things are different outside

 

[PrairieDillo]

All I said is that "I recommend #2." It did slow down but also was better balanced than 3.
3 was a bit too busy for me and got a bit hard for new people to get into.

SVC: Chaos was a big fail
CvSNK was much better received.

Why was the MVS such a big success in Greece?
You are the only one bringing up territory.

70~ posts and you post like you own final word on MVS? I really don't know how any of your posts are helping the OP.

Find a soapbox on another thread please...
Yes America isn't the only country out there. I think Eseyo also knows this as both of us are from immigrant families.

Is there such thing as "little country syndrome" like "little man syndrome?"

OH yeah MasterFygar: Congrats on the win of the auction. Please post pics when you get the machine home. How much did you get it for? Those are actually cool details to know.

Also I happen to really love the site hardmvs.com
You'll find tons of resources on there. I hope you got an original and dedicated unit.

 

[oyama82]

All I said is that "I like #2"

SVC: Chaos was a big fail
CvSNK was much better received.

Why was the MVS such a big success in Greece?
You are the only one bringing up territory.

70~ posts and you own the place? I really don't know how any of your posts are helping the OP.

Find a soapbox on another thread please...

I never said I own the place and never think anything like that,if you dont like other foreign opinions you can report me to the supervisors here,its ok

 

[nesjess]

oh there is no hate! really,just chatting about games
I say about your country all the time,because sometimes you forget that you arent alone in this world,things are different outside

Haha. I know, I was joking about the hate. But you're right, Americans (people in general) are very egocentric at times. I'm actually Korean-American and have been overseas to Korea and Japan quite a number of times. So I know other parts of the world are very different. Definitely a different kind of market for gamers in Asia. Seriously, there are still multimillion dollar Star Craft leagues in Korea. They are really into online multiplayer games more than anything else.

 

[oyama82]

Haha. I know, I was joking about the hate. But you're right, Americans (people in general) are very egocentric at times. I'm actually Korean-American and have been overseas to Korea and Japan quite a number of times. So I know other parts of the world are very different. Definitely a different kind of market for gamers in Asia. Seriously, there are still multimillion dollar Star Craft leagues in Korea. They are really into online multiplayer games more than anything else.

multiplayer games and tekken
I have been to china and philippines many times and see how things are there
so yes,different regions,different tastes

 

[simpsons99]

I don'nt see Ninja Combat said anywhere here.

 

[oyama82]

I don'nt see Ninja Combat said anywhere here.

yes I agree with you,I love that too

 

[simpsons99]

most people don'nt know this Ninja Commando was Ninja Combat 2.

 

[oyama82]

most people don'nt know this Ninja Commando was Ninja Combat 2.

yes and Gang Wars was something like a prequel of ninja combat

 

[sosage]

that your country is not good at fighting games its a fact,I am not the only one saying that,you cant compare at all to asian players
me and my country neither can compare of course
its an insult for me telling that kof and ss are not as good as sf,you throw away a whole history and a whole community of millions which they follow these games(at least kof for sure)

That's why Japan's top IV player got took by...a San Francisco Bay Area player at SCR. That's why Japan's top IV player is now traveling to NorCal Regionals to try and run it back.

Until IV's release, it use to be Japan, followed by USA followed by everyone else...in fighting games people throughout the world gave a crap about (SNK games get passed over for the majority of Evo's official game lists for a reason). Now, the global community is starting to even out a bit. It's a field where anyone can take anyone (England, Taiwan, Japan, America...all of them have representatives that are taking each other out in majors). Japan still has the edge, but the rest of us "can't compare"? GTFO

As for quality, you're either high or you've spent too much time in China/South America (the few places on earth where SNK fighters are more popular than Capcom's). SNK has never...EVER...created a fighting game title that has come close to the type of global competitive involvement Capcom titles have generated. The one series where SNK was involved that had legit global competition going hard at it, Capcom developed. SNK was given the same formula to design their own version, and it hit the ground with an audible "thud".

SNK makes good games, but prepare to be "insulted" again, and again, and again, and again...When it comes to fighting games, Capcom > SNK all day.

As for good SNK fighting games, I'll give you KOF 98 and 2K2. A lot of people have fond memories of Samurai Shodown 1 and 2, hence they always get brought up. I have Art of Fighting and Fatal Fury swapped into my cab every once in a while based off nostalgia alone...not so much for being good games.

Oh yeah...Windjammers, Bust-A-Move, Baseball Stars, Metal Slug 1/3/X/5, Shock Troopers...just to name a few recommendations to the original thread topic.

 

[oyama82]

That's why Japan's top IV player got took by...a San Francisco Bay Area player at SCR. That's why Japan's top IV player is now traveling to NorCal Regionals to try and run it back.

Until IV's release, it use to be Japan, followed by USA followed by everyone else...in fighting games people throughout the world gave a crap about (SNK games get passed over for the majority of Evo's official game lists for a reason). Now, the global community is starting to even out a bit. It's a field where anyone can take anyone (England, Taiwan, Japan, America...all of them have representatives that are taking each other out in majors). Japan still has the edge, but the rest of us "can't compare"? GTFO

As for quality, you're either high or you've spent too much time in China/South America (the few places on earth where SNK fighters are more popular than Capcom's). SNK has never...EVER...created a fighting game title that has come close to the type of global competitive involvement Capcom titles have generated. The one series where SNK was involved that had legit global competition going hard at it, Capcom developed. SNK was given the same formula to design their own version, and it hit the ground with an audible "thud".

SNK makes good games, but prepare to be "insulted" again, and again, and again, and again...When it comes to fighting games, Capcom > SNK all day.

As for good SNK fighting games, I'll give you KOF 98 and 2K2. A lot of people have fond memories of Samurai Shodown 1 and 2, hence they always get brought up. I have Art of Fighting and Fatal Fury swapped into my cab every once in a while based off nostalgia alone...not so much for being good games.

Oh yeah...Windjammers, Bust-A-Move, Baseball Stars, Metal Slug 1/3/X/5, Shock Troopers...just to name a few recommendations to the original thread topic.

EVO is not everything neither UFC...

actually kof surpassed every fighting game in popularity in the later 90's in asia,something that you didnt know

yeah I spend enough time in china-hong kong to see hundreds of people everyday waiting to play the old good kofs 98-2002 in front of dozens of cabinets and only 8-9 people playing sf4,3rd strike and tekken 5-6

sf2 was the first best,give us great nostalgia,that doesnt mean capcom is the best

 

[oyama82]

another thing for kof,its a difficult and technical fighting game,maybe thats another reason many people dont like it,mostly casual players
I make enough mess in this thread,so I quit posting here,arguments may be endless

 

[norton9478]

Neo Turf Masters

 

[MasterFygar]

Haha, thanks guys, I appreciate it and I'm starting to get a good feel for what to go for. Don't worry about your argument eseyo and oyama, it was a really interesting read and it convinced me to stay miles away from the KOF series (just kidding ). I just appreciate the attention this thread has gotten, seeing this much enthusiasm over the platform makes all the more excited about it! (Also Oyama: what's the deal with the arcade scene in Greece? I visited Athens about six years ago and scoured every last corner looking for an arcade and found nothing, but you seem to have great knowledge on the subject.) I'll keep an eye out for Paul's thread, so far almost every eBay seller of the carts has me raising an eyebrow for one reason or another and there's enough good words about you on here to show me you know how to do a sale. Get that list up so I can give you my money!

And thanks Prairieed, it may be a few days before I pick it up (5 hour drive, but so worth it) but I'm pumped as hell. It's a dedicated 2 slot, in good, clean working condition, good monitor and all, still has headphone/memory card slots... got it for 199.99! I was pretty thrilled about that. I'll be sure to post lots of pics when I get it as well as the carts I decide on to incite more arguments

Anyone have an opinion on Waku Waku 7? One of my pals keeps saying I HAVE to get it but all I see is a crazy expensive fighting game... granted, I've never played it. Is it all it's cracked up to be?

 

[sosage]

actually kof surpassed every fighting game in popularity in the later 90's in asia,something that you didnt know

This is why every thread I've seen you jump in becomes a heated argument (and why I wound up jumping into this one). You make a lot of insulting presumptions about who you are talking to and what "they know", following up with super general statements. Provide me info. Popularity based off of what? Surpassed what numbers? Late 90's, which years? Where in Asia? How does it being popular in "Asia" have anything to do with other titles being popular globally? What does it have to do with constantly being passed over, if not vastly outnumbered in global tournaments (since the 90's!)?

Technically difficult? Why is this always everyone's ace up their sleeve when they want to defend their game of choice while backhanding everything else? I've played KOF98/2K2 against good Chinese players also...it doesn't contain some secret elite learning curve other 2D fighters lack. I can give you two likely reasons why they are only played casually everywhere else: 1) SNK didn't have the same high exposure it had in China/South America 2) other countries gravitated to other games because of quality, quantity and familiarity.

Evo btw. Here's an Asian major for you: Super Battle Opera. Capcom titles outnumber SNK titles this year...and IIRC every damn year since the event's debut. I've yet to see a major anywhere that has more SNK games than Capcom, let alone one where the SNK games pull in the numbers other games pull in.

Follow my lead and provide information.

Edit: Sorry to derail. Here's some more games to look for: League Bowling (although once you find the money spot it is 300 games all day), Viewpoint is an OK port on MVS, Super Dodgeball