need a pricecheck for a possible restoration project?

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need a pricecheck for a possible restoration project?

I think I'm posting this in the right thread, if not I appologize. I went to the antique store looking for something to do a restoration on when I came across this pin. I believe he said it was from 39 and it's a Bally Banner. I looked it up in the System, but theres literally nothing of any use about it. Here are some basic pix (sorry for the crappy resolution, they're from my phone).
(as you can see, theres two lil spots in the mirror)
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(looks like its missing a portion)
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(looks pretty clean, just needs cleaned and maybe a touchup if it's advised)
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He was originally asking 600, but we got to talking and he said he'd do it for 3. Does anyone know anything about this pin? Is it worth picking up? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much in advance guys!
 
fwiw: http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=5408

see also: http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=2741

<in case that's not the "system" you were referring to>

Looks to be in pretty nice condition for it's age - clean at least. If it's fully functional and you just need to tidy it up, clean up the plastics, put fresh rubber on it etc., it may be worth $300 potentially, but not $600 I don't think.

Key is whether you'll enjoy it; not much to do on the old flipperless pins so you may get bored of it quickly. Not particularly flashy - simple artwork on the backglass and playfield.

I'd see this more as a "collectable" myself - something with some historic value. If it had some nice period artwork that made it stand out, that would be where the value would be, since there's little play value otherwise...
 
fwiw: http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=5408

see also: http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=2741

<in case that's not the "system" you were referring to>

Looks to be in pretty nice condition for it's age - clean at least. If it's fully functional and you just need to tidy it up, clean up the plastics, put fresh rubber on it etc., it may be worth $300 potentially, but not $600 I don't think.

Key is whether you'll enjoy it; not much to do on the old flipperless pins so you may get bored of it quickly. Not particularly flashy - simple artwork on the backglass and playfield.

I'd see this more as a "collectable" myself - something with some historic value. If it had some nice period artwork that made it stand out, that would be where the value would be, since there's little play value otherwise...

that is not the system I was referring to so thank you lol frankly I have little interest in it, but it just kinda breaks the heart seeing it sit in an antique store. I mean would there be any market at all for it cleaned up? I wouldn't mind picking it up just to get it into a legit collector's hands if said market exists
 
I think the market for those is probably pretty small. I think about it this way - what pins are YOU most attracted to typically - likely the ones you grew up playing, and newer.

So - if that was made in 1939, you're talking about folks who grew up in that timeframe. A 10 year old kid from the time who may have played it would be in their mid-80's at this point for example...

That's why those vintage ones can often end up sold as "antiques" I suspect. Given that it's rather generic looking, nothing special, and doesn't offer much as far as play value (no flippers, just bumping the ball around a bit), unless you have some sentimental attachment to it (IE your grandfather had one in his house when you were a kid), it's probably not worth getting - and not as an investment at that price...
 
BUT........if they found this on Auction Hunters, American Pickers, Pawn Stars, or Storage Wars then you could sell it for probably around $3500. :)
 
I think the market for those is probably pretty small. I think about it this way - what pins are YOU most attracted to typically - likely the ones you grew up playing, and newer.

So - if that was made in 1939, you're talking about folks who grew up in that timeframe. A 10 year old kid from the time who may have played it would be in their mid-80's at this point for example...

That's why those vintage ones can often end up sold as "antiques" I suspect. Given that it's rather generic looking, nothing special, and doesn't offer much as far as play value (no flippers, just bumping the ball around a bit), unless you have some sentimental attachment to it (IE your grandfather had one in his house when you were a kid), it's probably not worth getting - and not as an investment at that price...

TRUTH - alot like antique cars - the guys driving around and/or collecting the really old stuff (Model T's) are usually much older themselves.

I suspect that a great deal of what WE collectively are interested in now will unfortunately go by the wayside with future generations; the only folks interested will be those who had it in their family or carry a unique fascination for things that are "outside their experience realm". How many people REALLY want a 78 RPM juke, as another example.....worth a bunch, but few young people would want one.....

Chris
 
Good looking machine given its age. If you got it for $300 (provided everything worked) and cleaned it a little and freshened the rubber rings you could easily get $400 or more on eBay. I have a 1948 Lady Robin Hood. Not incredibly fun as compared to pins of the 70', 80's or 90's but still fun to play. I bought it because I like pinball and I think this machine (10 years older than I) is a work of art. I agree with you in that it looks too nice to just be sitting in some antique store. If it were near me, I'd go to the antique store and get it. Pins like that are going to get harder and harder to find, especially in that condition.

BTW, the ball launch area picture had a caption that you thought something was missing, I do not see anything missing there. It appears complete to me.
 
BUT........if they found this on Auction Hunters, American Pickers, Pawn Stars, or Storage Wars then you could sell it for probably around $3500. :)

yeah with a 1500 evel kenevsl on pawn stars lol...
they cant even sell them at 900 in michigan
 
I think I'm posting this in the right thread, if not I appologize. I went to the antique store looking for something to do a restoration on when I came across this pin. I believe he said it was from 39 and it's a Bally Banner. I looked it up in the System, but theres literally nothing of any use about it. Here are some basic pix (sorry for the crappy resolution, they're from my phone).
He was originally asking 600, but we got to talking and he said he'd do it for 3. Does anyone know anything about this pin? Is it worth picking up? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much in advance guys!

If you would be getting it for the "play-ability & fun" factor, no way, it's not evn worth $10.

If you're getting it for a restoration project, then cool, but even then I wouldn't spend more than $100. I mean, honestly, what do people that like to do restorations do when they're done with it? Sell it (98%) or let it sit there and look at it (1%) or play it (1%). If you play it, it won't be fun. It might be a novelity for 5 minutes, but that's it. If you let is sit there and look at it, great if you have the space (most people don't). If you sell it, even if you do a fantastic job at restoring it, you'll have a very difficult time getting even $250 for it and it will take a long time to sell.

If you're getting it to flip it to make some money, then you better not pay more than $25 for it because you'll have a hard time getting $50 for it.

Just my opinions.
 
Good looking machine given its age. If you got it for $300 (provided everything worked) and cleaned it a little and freshened the rubber rings you could easily get $400 or more on eBay.

its not worth driving to get the machine, cleaning, fixing, rerubbering, taking pics, listing on ebay, paying listing fees, HOPING someone buys the game and actually shows up with the money.....all for only $100

my advice is stay away from the games WITHOUT flippers, they are hard to sell and very little people want them. ESPECIALLY FOR $300.........id say offer $100.......your not losing out much at $100 total invested in it
 
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