bit_slicer
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This looks like it might be a DIY kit or method??? That would be awesome!
My silkscreened Missile Command control panel has arrived
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chris25810
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Most definitely not!
bit_slicer
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Ok now I'm confused.
We would need to send you the original panel, stripped and pre-powder coated? Call me crazy but that would seem to be the easier part of producing these.
Ok now I'm confused.
Why, you think silkscreening on powdercoated metal is easy? In that case I have a few projects I'd like to send your way.
sandblasting and powdercoating a part isn't too tough. Last time I had it done it cost me $20 for a metal CP at a local fab shop.
bit_slicer
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No I was saying that was the less-easy part.
But having to send a panel to get silk screened precludes those of us who don't already have a panel.
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chris25810
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No I was saying that was the less-easy part.
I see where you're coming from here bit slicer. This is only gonna work if you have a panel to begin with. I'm gonna provide you guys with the info you need to get your panel (if you have one) prepped for screening and the rest will be up to the magician who did the rest.
As i mentioned earlier, this was an experiment on this type of powder coat finish. If it wouldn't have worked, i would of at least had a good surface to slap an overlay on. The texture of the powder coat is critical cuz anything rougher than what i have here will leave you with fuzzy looking text.
ThisOldGame
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ArcRivival called and said you part out too many games to deserve such a B-A-utiful repro
you should be ashamed of yourselve
you should be ashamed of yourselve
ThisOldGame
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Funny you should mention that.
As a funny thing happened to me on the way to the forum...
When I was getting ready to start these a few years back...
I was contacted by no other than our friendly neighborhood Repro Hero Dave.
He informed me he was already working on doing these panels,
and was having new panels made, powder coated, silkscreened, the works.
So with soo many other projects on the plate I let it go.
Now we take us 2 years later of course no new Asteroids panels yet...
But an announcement for Missile Command and Lunar Lander panels!
Note this announcement only came AFTER PhoenixArcade announced LL cpos from original films
and we all know who won that Space Race.
Now not here to rub salt in the wound but when I saw Chris's MC restoration blog over on COSP
I knew Chris would be going all out on this one like any other project of his and of no surprise the control panel
was already at the powder coaters.
But I just couldn't resist the chance to put on my Myth Busters cap and put my mad skills to the test.
I only had this panel for about 2 weeks.
the first week it sat in its box while I tried to get an original panel to color match to.
A BIG thanks goes out to CJ/OregonArcade for lending me both his CP and Bezel pieces
(ahh that all makes sense now.)
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=131442
So with the original panel in hand I got started.
ThisOldGame
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MC is 5 colors and spent about 30 min each morning screening each color.
so by Friday she was all finished and the proof is in da pudding
But the real test was about to begin and find out if the stories of cabin pressures, high altitudes, Earths gravitational pull,
and God knows what else has/had any effect on the silk screened inks at Mach3 transits.
So boxing it up I shed a tear and wrapped this baby up nice and tight and sent her on its way.
So what does all this mean?
so by Friday she was all finished and the proof is in da pudding
But the real test was about to begin and find out if the stories of cabin pressures, high altitudes, Earths gravitational pull,
and God knows what else has/had any effect on the silk screened inks at Mach3 transits.
So boxing it up I shed a tear and wrapped this baby up nice and tight and sent her on its way.
So what does all this mean?
bit_slicer
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So what does all this mean?
It means we don't need Dave no more.
... and that Chris got the first proto repro MC panel from TOG. What do I win???
Wolfinator
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Beautiful!!! Nice to see things like this being reproduced with such quality.
WadeLanham
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That looks really nice, and better than an overlay, but that black finish doesn't look much like the original. The original had much more of a large spatter texture, this texture is too fine. (I realize there might be problems screening onto the original finish or other complications).
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LyonsArcade
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First of all, have you seen what happened in Japan, Rikitiki? Huh? YOUR FUCKING MISSLE COMMAND CONTROL PANEL BOMBED JAPAN.
Dave tried to warn you guys.
Dave tried to warn you guys.
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chris25810
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Great observation on the texture. Nobody really knows exactly how atari did their printing on such a rough surface and I did ask the company that coated this if they could duplicate the exact finish. Their texture selection was too much on the hammered side and I knew that wasn't gonna work so I went with the finish that atari and others used for other metal pieces. It has the consitency of an overlay or a pica vinyl and will still leave you with a surface that would allow you to slap an overlay on it in the event that screening didn't work. It's possible that a heavier texture may still screen well but if it doesn't you're double screwed as an overlay won't stick either and you'd be starting all over.
Today's coatings are much better than what was used back then and this shit is tough as nails, a properly prepped and coated panel by today's methods will not experience the wear and flaking that we commonly see on these parts. Thanks Rich for posting the extra pics. and most of all, thanks for making it a sucessful attempt. Keep in mind that my panel went from a coater, back to my house where it was boxed, sent to Oregon, then handled several times during the screening process, back into a box and shipped half way across the country. I'm sure UPS tossed this thing around several times during back and forth transit and this thing is 100% undamaged, you will not achieve or maintain this look or durability with paint or anything less than powder coating.
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rainman154
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Looks damn nice!
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chris25810
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Not bad Rich, not bad at all.
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chris25810
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At this point, i'm gonna turn this thread over to Rich at This Old Game. There are several things that need to fall into place and i can and will supply part of the details.
#1- You will have to provide your original panel that has been sandblasted and powder coated in this particular finish. You will have to find a company to get this part done.
#2- I will post the info (next week) that tells the brand of powder and this exact finish. I've used this finish on hundreds of pieces including coin doors, marquee brackets etc. I know it works and it's nice and i guarantee you will kill yourself trying to sand, scrape or chisel this stuff off when done right.
#3- It is possible that other textures may work however, we only experimented with this one and the heavier the texture, the less chance you have of obtaining a nice screened image.
#4- No matter what, i strongly suggest that you spend a few extra bucks and have your panel sandblasted before coating. Any good company will tell you that the absolute best powder adhesion will be obtained through this method. If they tell you they can coat right over your existing surface, go somewhere else.
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mrbill2084
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would it not make more sense to send all the control panels to 1 place, have them all sand blasted and powder coated and then painted??
seems to me that there are a few variables in panel prep that could be eliminated if 1 person handles the prep. Not to mention it might be cheaper to get 20 sand blasted and powder coated in 1 shot..
seems to me that there are a few variables in panel prep that could be eliminated if 1 person handles the prep. Not to mention it might be cheaper to get 20 sand blasted and powder coated in 1 shot..
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joeycuda
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If the part wasn't blasted and bare metal, I wouldn't think the 'charge' would attract the powder to cling like it should during the process.
Then again, I heard about one guy that doesn't even use the electrical charge.. just bakes the part, gets it hot, then sprays the powder on it. I know that doesn't sound quite right.
