my first post...and my first project HELLO!

[smalltownguy2]

You're not gonna get a lot of support for that here. Try the BYOAC forums.

Did you get the back door off? Can you take more pics of the neck pins and socket?

 

[Corvus]

You're not gonna get a lot of support for that here. Try the BYOAC forums.

Did you get the back door off? Can you take more pics of the neck pins and socket?

I'm not looking for support lol I'm looking for legit opinions either for or against, I value the opinions of those of you who have more experience than me (which is essentially everyone here ) lol. I mean its not a dedicated machine, its a hack job, I'm going to replace the monitor and cabinet anyway, why not get some use out of anyway lol.
To answer your question, no I haven't gotten the back door off, some of my coworkers came down with some big illness so I've been doing double shifts. Hopefully I can swing by the hardware store on the way home tonight and pick up a drill and get...drilling? lol

 

[SiLeNtNiNjA1]

I just got several monitors in a lot buy. Ill be sorting and testing them as I get time. There are several 19in monitors if you wanted to get the original size back in there, and a 25in WG U2000 in the lot that would do the job for you. If you decide to keep going for the restore option, ill keep you in mind for one of em. I may be able to meet you more than halfway if I go to wellston for another salmon fishing trip Just let me know which route you want to go.

 

[Corvus]

I just got several monitors in a lot buy. Ill be sorting and testing them as I get time. There are several 19in monitors if you wanted to get the original size back in there, and a 25in WG U2000 in the lot that would do the job for you. If you decide to keep going for the restore option, ill keep you in mind for one of em. I may be able to meet you more than halfway if I go to wellston for another salmon fishing trip Just let me know which route you want to go.

I'm still trying to decide bro. I hardly want to do a restore, as this unit was a hack job to begin with lol I literally want to purchase a 4 controller cabinet and make this as "dedicated" as possible (I think I'm using the term properly lol) I want this to look exactly like the original would have looked in 91, which isn't an option with this cabinet.

 

[smalltownguy2]

I'm still trying to decide bro. I hardly want to do a restore, as this unit was a hack job to begin with lol I literally want to purchase a 4 controller cabinet and make this as "dedicated" as possible (I think I'm using the term properly lol) I want this to look exactly like the original would have looked in 91, which isn't an option with this cabinet.

FYI - the MAME option will easily be ten times as long to implement than the 'repair monitor' option. I'm just sayin'.

I've been continually working on my MAME cab for 3 years, and I'm still not happy with it.

Get that back door lock drilled off so we can get some close up shots of that tube end and assess what kind of damage there might be.

 

[SiLeNtNiNjA1]

I hear ya, a tough call to make. You can still have a good looking conversion if you can find a good control panel overlay, and make a new cp to match, a marquee, and sideart.

To help with the terminology :

Dedicated is the original factory cabinet with all artwork ect intact
Conversion is exactly that - putting the game into another cabinet and converting it. Sometimes they have new artwork thats applied to the sides and control panel. They usually have a new marquee put in, but not always.

Basically, your looking to do a good clean conversion. Its possible with that cab, but will be alot of work. Repro artwork isnt cheap either, but that part you would likely be after regardless of what cab you start with.

 

[smalltownguy2]

Bad news, my friend. I went back and took a closer look at your pics.

This pic worries me:

You see that little bit of yellowed plastic I circled? That's part of your keyway stuck in the neck socket of your neck board. That's not good. That tells me the the neckboard was smacked hard enough to rip it off the end of the tube, fracturing the keyway.

You don't NEED the keyway to plug the neckboard back in, but you'll need to be uber careful about two things:

1. straightening out the neck pins again, provided they're all still there and not broken off
2. plugging in the neck socket correctly, without being off by 1 pin.

Either way, you'll want to examine the neck board socket and pull out the pastic that's stuck in there. Then see to it about mending the neck pins. If any are broken off, likely the tube is toast.

Also look for any cracks at the end of the tube nipple.

 

[Corvus]

OK GUYS...NEW RULE...ALWAYS TRY THE EASIEST OPTION FIRST...I spent 30 min trying to drill that lock out, but the door wouldn't budge...I look down...THE LOCKS BEEN BROKEN FOR YRS IT WAS SCREWED SHUT....10 seconds later...heres the pix...I have since streightened the pins.

Please note, I'm still only allowed to upload 5 pix at a time, so as soon as this posts I'm going to post the rest of the pix

also, after the pix, I pulled the piece of broken plastic out of the ring, as recommended.

As you can see, one of the "prongs" is currently free floating

I removed this piece of plastic from here

 

[Corvus]

Everything else in here looks ok?

 

[Corvus]

ok now I'm scared lol how bad is it doctors?

 

[smalltownguy2]

Eek. Here's what I see.

Your tube is most likely shot. Free floating pins means there's no way you'll ever get the neck board plugged back into the tube properly. At best you might get a working picture, but you'll lose colors as the pins finally break off, or the whole picture altogether if the focus/heater/ground pins are broke. More than likely attempting to plug the neckboard in at this point will cause more damage than good.

You need to find a donor TV for that chassis. Luckily you have a pretty common chassis for that monitor setup, a Wells Gardner 25" K7000 (or K7xxx variety. So as long as you find a 25" color TV with a 10 pin neck tube, you should have a match and you probably won't even need to swap the yoke.

Be aware, the knobs on your flyback are white - those white knobbed flybacks have high failure rates. Nothing to worry about now, but be aware of it. More savvy monitor folks don't like to see those white knob flybacks.

Really, someone mounted the chassis to a piece of breadboard?? Cripes, that cab IS jacked up.

I say pull the chassis, pull the boards, pull the JAMMA wiring, pull all the controls, coin coors, power supplies and transformers. Take anything not bolted down. Part out the whole thing, sell the empty shell to some other poor sap who wants an empty cab (leave the necked tube in it for him to deal with) and try to recoup your investment by selling the parts. Or you could try to find another 25" cabinet with a non-working monitor for sale somewhere. Most of them are JAMMA cabs anyway, so you could just plug in your board and swap in your monitor boards and you'd be good to go. You could pick up a non-working 25" cab for under $100 and re-sell it for $250 when it's working. That would get your money back.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you likely toasted the tube when you were driving home with it, or when you were loading/unloading it.

 

[cadillacman]

tube is lost likely gone man. Looks like the monitor is/was a wells gardner 25" k7000. I see at least one broken pot on the neckboard, so the chassis has some damage too.

id start looking for a good used monitor. A local klover may be able to help you out.

if the cabinet is already jamma, you could go multi. put in a 60-1 multiboard and then you could run a lcd comouter monitor, itll plug right into the board.

cab is already converted, mame is another option i suppose. Beats burning the cab.

Mistakes, hey, thats how we all learn man. my first game was a mr do! in a midway gorf cabinet. It was a kraptastic mess but hey i learned alot messing with that cabinet and it helped jumpstart my addiction....err... i mean hobby yeah thats it... hobby...

 

[Corvus]

I'm leaning towards the mame at this point. I've got my desktop that I never use anymore so atleast I'd get SOMETHING that works...while stripping this thing out what do I keep and what do I trash. How do i safely dispose of the monitor

 

[cadillacman]

proper- find some electronics recycling place that takes crts.

not so proper, toss in a dumpster.

save the chassis,(circuit board) even though it has damage its still worth a little something to us arcade guys..

If you are going full on mame, save the game pcb as well. Its worth something to us folks. Same with the power supply and jamma harness.

 

[Corvus]

I wanna strip this thing out so all I have to do when I have cash all I have to do is buy a new cabinet and I'm good to go on Wrestlefest....what do I do lol any resources on this one?

 

[groffdaddy]

I wanna strip this thing out so all I have to do when I have cash all I have to do is buy a new cabinet and I'm good to go on Wrestlefest....what do I do lol any resources on this one?

Just curious but are you one of these guys?

 

[Corvus]

nope lol so how do I take this son of a gun apart?

 

[toolguy]

nope lol so how do I take this son of a gun apart?

If you are going to MAME it, you have a lot of work ahead of you and who cares how you take it apart, just pull it all apart if you don't care about it.

Why not contact SiLeNtNiNjA1 back and take him up on one of his offers. That the quickest way to get the thing going and not have a large wood cabinet sitting there for months collecting dust. You said your skill set is limited too. One of SiLeNtNiNjA1 monitors would take little to get working, then if you still want to MAME it, save and do it later.

Otherwise, cut your losses and by one that's MAMED already, there are many to pick from out there.

 

[SiLeNtNiNjA1]

If you are going to MAME it, you have a lot of work ahead of you and who cares how you take it apart, just pull it all apart if you don't care about it.

Why not contact SiLeNtNiNjA1 back and take him up on one of his offers. That the quickest way to get the thing going and not have a large wood cabinet sitting there for months collecting dust. You said your skill set is limited too. One of SiLeNtNiNjA1 monitors would take little to get working, then if you still want to MAME it, save and do it later.

Otherwise, cut your losses and by one that's MAMED already, there are many to pick from out there.

Yup, I have several monitors to test this weekend. Id take the old chassis for a few $$$ off for you to help offset the cost a bit. Ill end up repairing, testing and sending it along on here at some point.

Your easiest bet is to drop a monitor in, and have it up to where it was when you bought it - playable. You have the option between a 19in (what the cab was designed for) or a 25in (what is in it now). We would need to see some photos of the mounting to determine what would be best. If you are coming out to pontiac sometime this month, how long will you be down here? Any chance of bringing the cab with you so we could get a look at the mounting in it, and maybe even get a monitor in there and going?

Ill drop back in here after the lineup I have gets tested and see what youve decided to do.

 

[Corvus]

Uh I have no Idea when exactly I'm going to be able to get down there (work is being a pain in the butt right now). Right now I would like to get this thing back to a working condition, if practical. IDK If I'd be better off just making this a conversion with three controllers, or just waiting until I can afford a 4 controller cabinet.

Also, IF I did make this a MAME, I'd want to save the circuit board and what not so I can make a Wrestlefest later on, what all would need to be saved? (This is a hypathetical situation of course, it seems making it work right is a better option.)