pookdolie
Permanently Banned for excessive trolling.
I would've sent the CL listing / pictures to eBay.
my experience with profighter seller on ebay! machine caught on fire?
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I would've sent the CL listing / pictures to eBay.
TheOldMaster
New member
That game looks to be in pretty damn clean nice shape. I have seen pinballs go up in flames ,so it can happen. go see it in person to confirm the " Tale of Woe".
400 for that was very cheap so who knows?????
400 for that was very cheap so who knows?????
mine has no inner back glass, and mines been raped for parts for my blackhole i got in september. and now i need more parts for a haunted house i picked up.
Thanks for the support everyone.
i sent him a message verbatam "Hey man, nothing personal, but I am going to need visual proof this happened before I just walk away...please send me photos in the next 48 hours or I will have to assume you're making this up and leave the resulting feedback" as u suggested it sounded pretty good to me. i think his ebay fees for it are gonna be like $20 ahahahah
the plot thickens!
he replied
"Hey Toby I tried to call you and you never got back to me. I found out what you were talking about. I never sent you that email, my son did. He dosen't want me to sell it and logged on and made up that bullshit. The machine is still here in good shape. So if you want it then Pay for it and pick it up. Otherwise I will relist it.I don't care about bullshit feedback. You made a contract and so far you have not paid for this pinball or specified an exact date to pick it up. I'll wait 2 more days and if you don't make a commitment then it will be relisted and I will leave you negative feedback. NO OFFENSE. PETE."
so far i have drafted this but im sure you guys can do better...
"Hey sup brotha! Ofcourse i still want the machine, i didnt bid just to waste your time.
Did the auction end lower then you guys were expecting or something?
Well im sure you have seen the message your son sent me by now. So put yourself in my shoes and im sure you can understand my confusion?
Any who, just wanna confirm everything with you.
Where im picking up etc. ill have the exact date to pick up within 48 hrs or less as you have requested.
Thanks! appreciate it!
Toby"
any sugggestions on a better reply or follow up please?
anyone near this clown in pottsville pa wanna go grab it or me so i dont drive all the way there for him to not answer the door?
he replied
"Hey Toby I tried to call you and you never got back to me. I found out what you were talking about. I never sent you that email, my son did. He dosen't want me to sell it and logged on and made up that bullshit. The machine is still here in good shape. So if you want it then Pay for it and pick it up. Otherwise I will relist it.I don't care about bullshit feedback. You made a contract and so far you have not paid for this pinball or specified an exact date to pick it up. I'll wait 2 more days and if you don't make a commitment then it will be relisted and I will leave you negative feedback. NO OFFENSE. PETE."
so far i have drafted this but im sure you guys can do better...
"Hey sup brotha! Ofcourse i still want the machine, i didnt bid just to waste your time.
Did the auction end lower then you guys were expecting or something?
Well im sure you have seen the message your son sent me by now. So put yourself in my shoes and im sure you can understand my confusion?
Any who, just wanna confirm everything with you.
Where im picking up etc. ill have the exact date to pick up within 48 hrs or less as you have requested.
Thanks! appreciate it!
Toby"
any sugggestions on a better reply or follow up please?
anyone near this clown in pottsville pa wanna go grab it or me so i dont drive all the way there for him to not answer the door?
Arcadenut
Well-known member
If you really want the pin, I would just go pick it up cash in hand. The email should just be "Ok, ready to pick it up now, give me your address".
Any snide remarks can be sent AFTER you get your pin
zfcamaro
Well-known member
You've put your self in a tough position. He is obviously a dishonest person to begin with, you'll be lucky if he doesn't screw with the insides of it and flake a bit of the back glass for you before you pick it up.... You can remind him that sellers can no longer leave negative feedback for buyers as well
This sounds like a job for Walter Sobchak.
Yep, I would tell him I want pics as he's under contract or you will report him to eBay. I've said it before and I'll say it again: eBay is a wretched hive of scum and villainy.
Edit: just saw that supposedly his SON sent the email? Dude just go get your pin today and get this over with.
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patchboston
Active member
If he pulls any crap, just head over on the second day with cash in hand (unannounced). I once had someone drive all the way from PA to MA just to pick a rather large ebay item, and because my internet was down on that day I had no clue! Didn't like the fact that he did that, but in the end his cash did the talking. Imagine if I wasn't home though :-o
This reminds me of the "here's the $250. Don't give me any bullshit now grab a side and help me load it".
kerri369
Active member
ask for his address and say you're on your way. if he gives you a hard time tell him either that pin or his brains will be out in front of his house!
I also keep laughing at the thought that what if this guy or his son is a KLOVer and they see this thread LOL
shardian
New member
That guy is so full of shit. I hope this works out for you.
Man...he should be apologizing his butt off for the message his son sent. Instead he's giving you ultimatums and acting like you are pulling his chain!!!
Man...he should be apologizing his butt off for the message his son sent. Instead he's giving you ultimatums and acting like you are pulling his chain!!!
jaafaman
New member
Guy may be telling the truth and leaving negtive feedback without knowinf for sure is a dick move. It did not cost you anything so move on. That is a problem on eBay people are way to fast on the bad feedback button.
At this point my response would be...
"Yes I want it. I was under the impression it burned up or you'd have been paid by now. Can I pick it up today at x:xx? Do you want cash in hand or would you prefer I pay via paypal? Thanks."
Leave it at that. No need to get in to any pissing contest. No need to remind him he's unable to leave you a neg. No need to bitch, moan or groan.
Dude made shit up and when he's realized that he's been backed in a corner, this is his way out. Just go get the pin... when you're there... don't bring up jack shit. Not necessary.
"Yes I want it. I was under the impression it burned up or you'd have been paid by now. Can I pick it up today at x:xx? Do you want cash in hand or would you prefer I pay via paypal? Thanks."
Leave it at that. No need to get in to any pissing contest. No need to remind him he's unable to leave you a neg. No need to bitch, moan or groan.
Dude made shit up and when he's realized that he's been backed in a corner, this is his way out. Just go get the pin... when you're there... don't bring up jack shit. Not necessary.
Pac-Fan
New member
Yeah, he's a full time liar. He sent it not his son. Agree 100% with Frizz....
First, your first message shouldn't have threatened negative feedback. The seller can use that against you for "feedback extortion" and nullify the auction and get his fees back and prevent it from hitting him. (Seriously--the worse the seller the more they seem to be able to bend eBay rules with enough followup that good sellers can't get from them.)
Second, your second message should not be questioning his motives, etc.. Keep it short, sweet and professional. No accusations, just pretend to go along with his lies and confirm his address and say you'll be there to pick up. (Yes, you can still clarify that you were confused by his 'sons' mesage.)
Yeah, you know the real story, but if there is still any chance of getting what you want, be sure you keep it professional and brief. Share the experience afterwards, don't poke at the idiot when you still want something from them.
Also, you might wanna take a friend with to assist. If he actually relinquishes the game to you he certainly isn't going to be happy to help you load it and might help damage it even while you're there. Also, you don't know what this person might/can do for threats and the like. Make sure you have someone with to even things up just in case something goes worse. Watch a couple episodes of Operation Repro before heading over alone and you'll see what I mean.
First, your first message shouldn't have threatened negative feedback. The seller can use that against you for "feedback extortion" and nullify the auction and get his fees back and prevent it from hitting him. (Seriously--the worse the seller the more they seem to be able to bend eBay rules with enough followup that good sellers can't get from them.)
Second, your second message should not be questioning his motives, etc.. Keep it short, sweet and professional. No accusations, just pretend to go along with his lies and confirm his address and say you'll be there to pick up. (Yes, you can still clarify that you were confused by his 'sons' mesage.)
Yeah, you know the real story, but if there is still any chance of getting what you want, be sure you keep it professional and brief. Share the experience afterwards, don't poke at the idiot when you still want something from them.
Also, you might wanna take a friend with to assist. If he actually relinquishes the game to you he certainly isn't going to be happy to help you load it and might help damage it even while you're there. Also, you don't know what this person might/can do for threats and the like. Make sure you have someone with to even things up just in case something goes worse. Watch a couple episodes of Operation Repro before heading over alone and you'll see what I mean.
Agree 100%. Just go get it and don't worry about his motivations until after you have it in hand.
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beerbarrel
Active member
Oh, and before you leave with the pin, bend his son over your knee and whack his ass good!
