My Atari Airborne Avenger Pinball

One of your acceptors is missing the # 4000 Seperator Assembly. Without it, your acceptor will reject a great many quarters.
What a GOOD eye Ken! The one on the right in my photo, which would actually be the left outside. That one, as I recall, is the one that indeed rejects quarters a lot! The coin door is the one area I have yet to work on. I will check it out closely, both of them ASAP. Never even made it to my other project today or any fun stuff.

Thank you again!

Best, Mike.
 
Ok, I also took out the mech on the left now too, (right one as viewed outside the coin door) and this is what we have - 1st and 2nd photos. Complete with the #4000 separator assembly and also the sticker 130-25c. The one missing the separator is also missing one lof the #6 studs. Which is why it would not lock in the door correctly.

FORTUNATELY, The other spare coin door I mentioned I have for my A.A. in an earlier part of this thread, another owl eyed door out of a KEE GAMES Super Bug, is fully intact as far as I can tell. Complete with two more Coin Mech, 130 - 25c mech. 3rd and 4th photos.

So this should solve the missing #4000 separator issue.

I might as well work on this door ASAP and finish the A.A. Then maybe sell a game or two so I can get this pin in my game room and out of my garage. Problem is I like all my games and I don't want to sell any. Oh well, there's only so much room. I guess I could always rotate some to storage in my garage. I just don't like that idea overall. Problem I guess ehen one has too many games. There are worse problems.

Thanks again Ken. I plan on, still, working on and trying the 7 cents trick.

Best, Mike
 

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Cool, I love Atari pinballs!
I have an Airborne Avenger up and running in my game room for a number of years now, and it plays pretty reliably, just had a few minor issues. I really like playing it.
Last year I overhauled a Middle Earth which is at my Mom's house, and currently I am working on a Superman. I also have a Space Riders and a Time 2000, but they are currently stored away in the basement waiting to be worked on. Had a Hercules, but sold it a few years back because the space was needed.
So cool that you got autographs by Steve Ritchie and Eugen Jarvis!
 
Cool, I love Atari pinballs!
I have an Airborne Avenger up and running in my game room for a number of years now, and it plays pretty reliably, just had a few minor issues. I really like playing it.
Last year I overhauled a Middle Earth which is at my Mom's house, and currently I am working on a Superman. I also have a Space Riders and a Time 2000, but they are currently stored away in the basement waiting to be worked on. Had a Hercules, but sold it a few years back because the space was needed.
So cool that you got autographs by Steve Ritchie and Eugen Jarvis!
Great to hear from another Atari pinball enthusiast! Thank you! Wow, you have a significant collection of Atari pins plus you at least "had" a Hercules! I would like to just see one in person. Funspot / American Classic Arcade Museum in the US State of New Hampshire has one. Someday I would like to take road trip to see that place.

Airborne Avenger is my only Atari pin. The rest of my home arcade consists of videos, mostly Atari. Actually, I either need to sell some of them or rotate some of them out into storage because my A.A. is now ready to play but sitting in my garage.

I still need to get that extra back A.A. back glass out that Steve Richie and Eugene Jarvis autographed for me and get photos of it and post them here. Will do that ASAP. When the game makes it to my game room it will take it's place in the machine!

All the Best!

Mike.
 
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We have a fully operational HERCULES here at the Olympia Pinball Museum. It's located right at the front of the museum.
Hi Ken,

I will keep that one in mind, Thank you for the heads up on it. Not sure which is further, Funspot in NH or Olympia, WA? Though, Olympia would likely be a more peaceful drive through the northern - western states. That I have driven through many times.

Best, Mike
 
One of your acceptors is missing the # 4000 Seperator Assembly. Without it, your acceptor will reject a great many quarters.
Ken,

Coin Mech missing # 4000 Separator Assembly issued resolved. Took the two mechs, so they are matching, out of my spare owl eyed coin door, which is out of a Kee Games Super Bug, and put them in my A.A.. I also decided the A.A coin door is in good shape. Does not need refinishing so I will leave that in. I still need to rob the coin reject plungers off the spare door along with the .25 cent / play window and the door shouild be go to go!

The .07 cents trick and the 1964 nickel is next on the list to try out.
 
Virtually all brands of modern coin acceptors have been manufactured to reject the "seven cents trick" (a.k.a. the "nickel and two pennies" trick). Back in the days when it did work, this is how it was done:

Basically, what you were doing was getting a nickel "stuck" in the coin acceptor then stacking up a couple of pennies right behind the stuck nickel. Then every penny dropped in after that went right to the coin switch as if it were a quarter. You could keep racking up credits for each penny inserted instead of a quarter. Here's the kicker: when you were done/tired of playing, you simply pressed the coin reject button and got your seven cents back! Also, this trick only worked with nickels dated 1964. That's because nickels made that year were way thicker than any other year. Thinner nickels wouldn't get stuck.

When I reported this to Coin Mechanisms, Inc (back in the day 40 years ago) they made a change to the coin gate plates on their coin acceptors to prevent the nickel from ever getting stuck. Older un-modified coin acceptors could be "fixed" in the field on location by simply bending outward slightly or cutting off (with a Dremel) the far lower left of the coin gate plate.
OK to test the .07 cent trick, the first roll of nickels I opened had a 1964 nickel. I also had plenty of of full copper pennies (1981 or earlier in general). The .07 cent trick does NOT work on any of my Coin Mech, Inc, 130-.25 cent mechs. So, despite their age, they must have been at least modified by the operator(s) in the field, back in the day, to reject the 1964 nickels. I did check the 1964 nickel thickness against others and even some brand new 2012s (the last year my son and I were searching bank rolled nickels for those Silver war era nickels of the 1940s I mentioned previously) and, indeed, as you stated Ken it is clearly thicker than all the others. Even thicker than the brand new Brilliant Uncirculated 2012 ones in the roll. I don't have a micrometer to give the exact thickness but, by placing a 1964 US nickel along side others you can clearly see it is indeed thicker.

Another task to scratch off my to do list!

Thanks Ken, it was interesting to at least try it!

Best, Mike.
 
Judging from the pictures you already posted of the front side of your Coin Mech 130 acceptors, they already are new style with the new improved coin gate assemblies. Those will NOT work with the seven cents trick.
 
Judging from the pictures you already posted of the front side of your Coin Mech 130 acceptors, they already are new style with the new improved coin gate assemblies. Those will NOT work with the seven cents trick.
I switched them out for the ones I had in my spare Owl Eyes coin door off a Kee Games Super Bug. But, they too looked the same as the ones in pictures except neither of these were missing the #4000 Separator assembly. I had no way of knowing what the date cutoff for the old type was or is. I just thought my A.A. or the old Super Bug mechs might be old enough, or they were operator modified.

Best, Mike.
 
Operators would have switched out the "bad" coin acceptors for the new, improved ones. After all, their bottom line would have been impacted if they didn't.

My boss was happy with the way I modified the existing acceptors. So there was no need for us to buy new ones.
 
Operators would have switched out the "bad" coin acceptors for the new, improved ones. After all, their bottom line would have been impacted if they didn't.

My boss was happy with the way I modified the existing acceptors. So there was no need for us to buy new ones.
Of course, the primary purpose of any of these games, pins. video or whatever coin amusement, was to make the operators $'s. So naturally anything that lost revenue had to go or be resolved / fixed ASAP. In regards to my Airborne Avenger, from what I have gathered, many Atari pins simply didn't hold up that long in operation. Judging from all the missing parts mine "had," I figured this one may have broke down, early in its life, then just sat having parts robbed off it. And maybe, whatever location(s) that machine had been on, perhaps(?) the .07 cents trick had not yet been discovered with it. Though, if other Coin Mechs of the same were in use on other amusements (Older ones) I am sure word spread like wildfire of it, the way to cheat and get a game for a lot less! And operators knew this too, so it was resolved early on. Who knows, but your knowledge of it was worth a try just to see if the Coin Mechs in mine were the ones. Like I said I didn't know the cutoff date or, for that matter, what those older mechs looked like. Only that that they were Coin Mech, inc 130-.25. It wasn't like I had to invest much time trying. I already had the needed items. Plus, Ken, you motivated me to finishing repairing my A.A. coin door. As of yesterday afternoon I have most of the final repairs / replacing missing parts done on it. Today we'll see, I may finish it. The coin reject plungers / pins were also missing. Along with a number of retaining nuts on the back side of the owl eyes coin inserts. Fortunatey, the donor owl eyes door I have has all the needed parts.

I am sure your boss was pleased with your work. But why wouldn't this have been a type of warranty fix / repair / replacement by the game manufacturer, or Coin Mech, Inc? Too late a discovery of the the issue and the warranty had already expired? I am just curious. Obviously an operator wasn't just going to to let the game sit there and take losses, etc. So maybe it was more of a time factor, get it fixed now!. I don't know.

Thanks again, Best,

Mike.
 
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At the time, the game machine manufacturers were subcontracting out using coin acceptors made by Coin Mechanisms, Inc. (a.k.a. Coin Mech) and Coin Acceptors, Inc. (a.k.a. CoinCo). Some game machine manufacturers made the coin doors themselves and simply used Coin Mech or CoinCo coin acceptors in them. Other game manufacturers simply bought complete coin doors from CoinCo or Coin Mech. This speeded up the game machine production line.

It was during the production run of Asteroids that Atari switched from the Owl Eye doors (which Atari made) to complete ready-to-bolt-on coin doors made by CoinCo. I think Atari finally started listening to reports coming in from the field from operators about cheating with the Owl Eye doors becoming a massive problem. I think this stems from the age old problem that manufacturers simply ignored: boys will be boys. Kids will do anything to get freebies from a game machine.

From what I can remember about the seven cents trick, it started in several small, distinct areas of the country. Then as those responsible for starting it moved around the country and showed others how to do it, it took off like wildfire. Operators all over the country were reporting game revenues way down, but game play (and crowds around the machines) way up. The dead give-away was that coin meter readings didn't jibe with what was in the cashbox. It was obvious that someone was cheating. Some operators wrongly assumed their company employees were stealing. However, private investigators usually cleared the employees. So it had to be players doing it. Once the seven cents trick hit us in the Puget Sound region of the Pacific northwest, it hit us hard. At the time, I was about 22 and always looked much younger than my age. So I kinda went undercover to find out about this trick. Once I found out which locations where this trick was occuring, I opened the machines in question with my set of keys (we had our own set of Illinois Lock "Duo" triple bitted locks) and looked at what coin acceptors were installed. At the shop, I was able to duplicate the trick in a coin acceptor on the work bench. Once I saw where the coins were stopping, I figured out what I had to do and did it.
 
Hi Ken, Thank you for taking the time to fill me in with all this information. It's appreciated. I like to know things and the history of coin arcade games is at the top. I enjoy my games and this hobby!​
All the Best, Mike.​
 
Cool, I love Atari pinballs!
I have an Airborne Avenger up and running in my game room for a number of years now, and it plays pretty reliably, just had a few minor issues. I really like playing it.
Last year I overhauled a Middle Earth which is at my Mom's house, and currently I am working on a Superman. I also have a Space Riders and a Time 2000, but they are currently stored away in the basement waiting to be worked on. Had a Hercules, but sold it a few years back because the space was needed.
So cool that you got autographs by Steve Ritchie and Eugen Jarvis!
Hello again,

I am adding photos, here, of my spare Airborne Avenger back glass signed by Steve Richie and Eugene Jarvis. Plus the original photo I already posted of Steve Richie signing it at the Midwest Gaming Classic in Milwaukee in April 2019. I failed to get a photo of Eugene Jarvis signing it there too but, I do have a photo of him, just prior, at his great talk / presentation he gave on his career in video games, some on Atari, etc. but mostly of his company, "Raw Thrills." It really was a great talk and he also gave out some really nice shirts, Raw Thrills games to those that asked questions. My son received one. Steve Richie was part of a presention on Stern Pinballs. I have another Stern Flyer he signed at the time too, whatever Pinball was new at that time, 2019. Forgive me everyone. Pinball is not my strong point. when I have time I may try and dig that out of my game flyers collection too and add a photo of it, if anyone is interested. Probably a collector piece for someome with that pin. I think it was "Black Knight" Sword Of Rage…? Anyway, Atari Airborne Avenger pin back glass photos, Steve Richie and Eugene Jarvis. Two of the designers od A.A.

Best, Mike.

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