Moving forum sections around.

There were never separate pinball sections for:

-SS General Discussion
-SS Repair
-EM General Discussion
-EM Repair
-For Sale
-Wanted
 
My personal opinion, and it's just that, is that it's way overcomplicated now. We don't need several extra sections, it just makes the site more difficult to navigate. Some are a good idea, I like the monitor subforum since half the questions about tech stuff are about monitors, but breaking everything else up into all the little categories is just way too much in my opinion.
 
You need to be more clear.... There are actually less categories than there were before.

WM Announcements became IAM News and Annoucements.
KLOV Annoucements became Forum News and Annoucements.
Auction Ace Links became Online Auction Links and Auction Event Notices
Many forums and categories got renamed and moved around.

Monitors was added
Cabinets was added

5 sections there were not used much were deleted.

Pinball tech was clearly placed with videogame tech which may not be what everyone wants but tons of pinball tech questions were already in there (there is another thread for this topic).

So other than renaming and changing the order of things (ie: pushing 'Chat About Almost Anything' down below the coin-op sections) it really isn't very different.
 
The new grouping of the categories and additions seem illogical and excessive. They should be kept separated, like they were originally, and along the following line...

Arcades
-General Discussion
-Repair
-For Sale
-Wanted

Pins
-SS General Discussion
-SS Repair
-EM General Discussion
-EM Repair
-For Sale
-Wanted

Misc
-Chat about anything
- jokes
-whatever other non-arcade related topics here




^^ I can get behind this suggestion 110%. If you are going to make changes this seems the most logical...and simplest.
 
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Looking at the "Videogame and Tech " section, there were only about 500 pinball tech related questions in there, some with comments from people telling them to post in the regular pinball section.

In the regular pinball section, there are a lot more than 500 questions...

So we've tweaked things so pinball tech and pinball discussion is the same forum.

If that is NOT what everyone wanted, let us know.
 
We have also removed the 'cabinets' section. It isn't inclined to get nearly the activity the monitor section is. The messages in there were pushed into the main videogame tech section.

The cabinets section may come back in the future. Also, the recommendation vote on the section is still pending. I turned it off today to simply limit the amount of changes people would have to get used to at one time.
 
It would be nice to have the subforums Michael listed, but I don't think that there is enough pinball traffic to warrant them. Looking at the past few days, there has only been 7 - 10 threads updated in the pin forum each day. If those threads were separated into subforums, there would be very little activity in each one. I would suggest leaving it as just one pin forum unless traffic is increased enough to justify more. Maybe just start each non general thread with: TECH:, Repair:, Restore:, etc. to make it easy to tell the main theme of the thread.

I rarely see pin stuff in the for sale and wanted sections, but I think it is better to keep them there so more members can look at them. There are probably quite a few members that don't always look in the pin forum, but may want to buy one, or have parts for one.

Paul
 
Biggest question at the moment: Pinball

There are a lot of tech questions in the general pinball discussion area. There are also a lot of pinball tech questions that appear in the general Tech section, which I've currently labeled as "Tech: Video Games and Pinball - Repair And Help".

It seems to me all the pinball tech questions should go in one place,

either:

1) mixed in with the general pinball discussion section (like tech for music is within music)
2) in a mixed videogame/pinball tech section
3) in its own tech section.

(whether pinball 'cabinet' questions below in a 'cabinet' section if it is kept is another question entirely).

I have my only thoughts about choices 1-3 above, but I don't want to taint the conversation.. Please post here or pm me.

Option #3 would be the best
 
This forum has just recently [in the time span of my involvment in the hobby] had a major overhaul. Now, in what appears to be a kneejerk reaction to a pissing contest bettween some of the big boys in the playground, the webmaster/admin/owner has choosen to reorganize the site with little forward input and without allowing an acceptable 'bake' time for the previous reorganization.

If you keep changing this forum, you will chase off the hobbiest that just want to use a farmiliar site to exchange information with like minded hobbiests.

The Saltbreez
 
It would be nice to have the subforums Michael listed, but I don't think that there is enough pinball traffic to warrant them. Looking at the past few days, there has only been 7 - 10 threads updated in the pin forum each day.


Paul

That is because everyone still goes to RGP... build something better and they will come.

- Mike
 
It would be nice to have the subforums Michael listed, but I don't think that there is enough pinball traffic to warrant them. Looking at the past few days, there has only been 7 - 10 threads updated in the pin forum each day. If those threads were separated into subforums, there would be very little activity in each one. I would suggest leaving it as just one pin forum unless traffic is increased enough to justify more. Maybe just start each non general thread with: TECH:, Repair:, Restore:, etc. to make it easy to tell the main theme of the thread.

I rarely see pin stuff in the for sale and wanted sections, but I think it is better to keep them there so more members can look at them. There are probably quite a few members that don't always look in the pin forum, but may want to buy one, or have parts for one.

Paul

First off....I HATE CHANGE!
I was just getting used to this "new" KLOV (and for the record...I still like the "old" KLOV better)....and ugg, more changes...Too many divisions. I don't think things need to be broken down this much.

With that off my chest...I agree with Paul. The pinball section doesn't get enough traffic to warrent breaking it down.

And to Greg....one big problem I see with these "sub-catagories" (besides the fact, I don't like them....have I mentioned I have change :) ) All the new people to the hobby. A lot of the new people don't know a monitor problem from a power supply problem from a motherboard problem (not too mention...this can be tricky in vector games....even for old hands)....all they know is they have a repair problem. This WAS easy enough to know where to post! Now, not so much.

Edward
 
And to Greg....one big problem I see with these "sub-catagories" (besides the fact, I don't like them....have I mentioned I have change :) ) All the new people to the hobby. A lot of the new people don't know a monitor problem from a power supply problem from a motherboard problem (not too mention...this can be tricky in vector games....even for old hands)....all they know is they have a repair problem. This WAS easy enough to know where to post! Now, not so much.

Edward

+1 and a big AMEN to that brother!!!

- Mike
 
Other than some minor changes in the 'Annoucements' section, I'm done making changes to the structure for a few days. There are two many differing reactions to the changes I'm hearing... Additionally, since work has been going on throughout the day, it is hard to know which comments refer to the system at what time and with what look.

As far as someone not knowing whether their problem is a monitor problem or not and thus posts one place or the other, it's not a big deal, and i hope everyone else shows the poster respect.


As far as the changes in general, please keep in mind that my intentions are good...
 
Also, as far as the monitor sub-section, 76% of the users so far (38/50) voted in favor of the monitor sub-section.
 
... As far as the changes in general, please keep in mind that my intentions are good...

+1. Only a few are questioning that. I appreciate the effort to try and fix things. ;)

</asskissing>
 
As far as someone not knowing whether their problem is a monitor problem or not and thus posts one place or the other, it's not a big deal, and i hope everyone else shows the poster respect.


As far as the changes in general, please keep in mind that my intentions are good...

I don't think it's about respect.....I honestly think most users would be very respectful of a new person ( or an old hand) who happened to post in the wrong section....err..ahhh..."sub-section". I think the problem is....someone who could help another poster might not read or see said "help" post because of the sub-catagories.

I just think video game repair is....video game repair. No need to sub-devide it. What next? Power supply repair, motherboard repair, marquee repair....:) OK, I kid.....though, that last one might not be a bad idea. I can't tell you how many times in the last year I've read...."what kind of marquee bulb does my Donkey Kong need?"

Seriously, I know your intentions are good...and I know your job must be tough. Sorry if I'm coming off kinda "harsh", but damn...I hate change :)

Edward
 
Here on the same page of the thread is the problem.

There are a lot of people that say 'Too many divisions.' 'No need to sub-divide' (anything), and at the same time there are a lot of people that are happy to see pinball broken up into several categories: (ie: -SS General Discussion, -SS Repair, -EM General Discussion, -EM Repair, -For Sale, -Wanted). And of course there are a lot of people somewhere in between.

I'm done looking at structural changes for at least a few days...
 
Pinball repair

I think there should be a Pinball Repair and a Video Game Repair.

Mixing all the pinball stuff into 1 gets way too confusing and the people that need help don'nt get any?
 
I think it could be a child forum under pinball.
I don't like too many main forum sections as I think people find them difficult to find what they want when having to scroll down too much.
 
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