Griffin
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It's always amusing to disarm an Internet pissing match. There are never any winners.
Quality input from a community figurehead, thanks for that.
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It's always amusing to disarm an Internet pissing match. There are never any winners.
Good point...but any sale can be like that really.The problem of doing an auction is that you have to complete with other arcade collectors. You have to ask yourself does an auction create a tighter community or does it divide a community.
Are you willing to help a fellow collector who just beat you out of something you wanted or needed..
It is one thing about missing a deal cause you didn't pm fast enough but It is another if some one with deeper pockets beat you out of a deal.
I dont know if this fosters a tighter community..
If auctions become the norm and the prices become closer to the lets see how high I can go and see if it sticks crowd. Would we seem more.members here or less?
Would we see a tighter community if auctions become the norm?
In my case the item was rare enough that there was no research to be done... to me there is an exception.
I also have a FT thread I put out today - I dont want cash but I stated you could if you chose make an offer. The intent here is to get a trade.... knowing that people are going to ask you for a cash price no matter what you say in the post about a trade.
Put it up for auction with a minimum price then...at least we know an approx. number of what you'd want for it.
Did you want $100 or $2500?? With no idea what you'd want or take for it, it makes thing very hard.
A true auction, the item sells either way.
I agree with what your saying...my issue is it wasted time of all the people putting bids in, and then in the end was there a price public that people knew it was going for? Or if the seller really even wanted to sell it in the first place or were they just kicking the tires of trying to get an unreasonable price?
What OW said. You're wanting a fair trade for a Marble Madness. That's not an uncommon game and has been sold here, CL, kiijii, and ebay, plenty of times. Even Exidy's price guide ( http://www.arcade-classics.com/exidy_arcade_price_guide.html ) has it valued for a certain range ($800-1200) whereas your wants of Tapper ($1800-3000) and Paperboy ($1500-2500) are almost double the value of Marble Madness.
This is the power of data. It's not perfect, but it's better then being blind to its estimated value.
The fact that you call a MMAO "douchebaggery" should tell you something right there on why they should go.
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Agreed...all the Facebook groups are now like this too, especially the PM MMAO BS.I hear your point - I do. But it's too difficult to know the difference or force mods to police it so the best we can do is just all ignore MMAO where possible.
To be clear - this view is why I'm in the minority of arcade and pinball guys who AVOID craigslist at all costs. Craigslist is 99% what you describe above. People will let a $100 item sit for $5000 for months just waiting for a sucker to come along. I value my time more than my money. I stick to deals with fellow collectors and I sell to those same people.
There are plenty of things thoughout my life that I don't agree with. That doesn't mean they should be "banned" or "regulated".
I tend to try to "live and let live".
And that's why we are having a discussion on it...no harm no foul.There are plenty of things thoughout my life that I don't agree with. That doesn't mean they should be "banned" or "regulated".
I tend to try to "live and let live".
At least with an OBO you have a starting price to gauge if you are even in the vicinity of what they want....but yes, it can be.TL;DR
I dunno. I feel like people use OBO to the same effect. Inflate asking price and then sell to highest offer. Same thing isn't it? Slippery slope banning stuff (and enforcing) unless the website is modified to create special types of listings.
Sweet, I have some old car parts I need to unload, I'll post them up in the General Arcade forum. ANARCHY FOR ALL!!![]()
I disagree. I see plenty of threads where a person has an item where it seems pretty clear they just want to get rid of it, aren't looking to make a ton of money off of selling it, and are content to allow the buyer to set the value he/she thinks it's worth.
I do find distasteful the MMAO threads that are obviously auctions, usually for some rare part or game and there's rules for 'bidding' and whatnot and the seller either waits for the offers to go past his selling price or he picks the highest offer after a certain amount of time. That is not a "make me an offer" thread but is actually a "let people fight to inflate my profit" thread, and that's what ebay is for. But I don't think those should be confused with a regular MMAO thread, which to me is just a seller saying "here's this item, first one to make me a fair offer and it's yours."
I wouldn't report the post...
...i'd simply ignore it. Which is what people who have issues with MMAO posts should do.
Some people don't like ebay posts being posted on KLOV...
Some people don't like (evidently according to a post on this very thread) KLOVians to post their OWN ebay auctions...
Some people don't like this...
Some poeple don't like that...
It's called life... and trying to regulate shit you don't care for out of existence is one of the problems "society" has in general. Do we really need to move that crap to our tiny little forum?
I wouldn't report the post...
...i'd simply ignore it. Which is what people who have issues with MMAO posts should do.
Some people don't like ebay posts being posted on KLOV...
Some people don't like (evidently according to a post on this very thread) KLOVians to post their OWN ebay auctions...
Some people don't like this...
Some poeple don't like that...
It's called life... and trying to regulate shit you don't care for out of existence is one of the problems "society" has in general. Do we really need to move that crap to our tiny little forum?
I laugh a little every time the word "community" comes up.
This is some abstract idea that just doesn't exist.
It's every man for himself, plus the circle of people he
chooses to befriend. Trying to make klov into some kind of
commune is a joke. The buy/sell game hasn't changed much
in a lifetime, you just have to know how to play it best
and which games you should just sit out.
This is a good distinction, thanks for pointing this out.
The problem is having to separate one from the other which would add extra work for the mods. While I understand the use of MMAO just to unload something for a fair price, I don't think those sellers would be inconvenienced to put some kind of price with an 'or best' offer option instead.
Thoughts?