MMAO over PM - Can we just ban this activity here please?

[streetfighterken]

One of the better posts in this thread in my opinion.

The data is only a baseline... condition is king and can vary the worth of any machine A LOT. Supply and Demand also is a huge factor. Offers allow two parties to reach a mutual agreement based on these factors. Ive "overpaid" to own a machine I couldn't buy at the documented price because I wanted it... and I made an offer to make it happen. This has been a good discussion - there are some people in this thread I won't ever be able to deal with and I'm glad I know up front now.

This is pretty much the most truth of this thread. If I held out for some of my rarer stuff to get the "average price" or "best deal", I still wouldn't have it. I paid a "premium" to have it and I'm totally fine with it. Let people pay what they want. What does it matter to you, anyway? None of your business really. I'm guilty of price policing but if it were me seeing what the police say and I still wanted it bad enough, I'd still "overpay" to have it. I'm skeptical the police actually have much influence on a sale. If anything, it helps the sale if a buyer offers asking price after the police lowball it.

 

[Brian12]

Nothing like it at all.

So...

I throw my Dk cabaret up for 1k and get offers of 400-500

Why wouldn't i just say MMAO?


Point being the whole reason ppl have issues with MMAO is because they dont know the asking price and if they can get over on someone...

-Brian

 

[Arcadenut]

 

[OneNine]

lets all be honest here...

MMAO is about the same as throwing a price tag on it...regardless your going to get low balled, so might as well start from the bottom and work your way up...

So it appears from many of these posts, that the problem may not be MMAO, but rather MMAO in response to low-balling. Buyers and sellers should stop trying to rip each other off, ,start "shaking hands" and making fair and honest deals. Anyone that's ever run a business (successfully or not) knows...a satisfied customer is a repeat customer. But a DISSATISFIED customer is going to bad mouth you all over town (and in the information age, all over the Internet)

 

[bottlejunkie]

I don't care either way but I tried a "test" auction a while back mostly because I was bored but to also see how it would be received and the results were not good. Funny because the main complaint was about accepting bids via PM and not the actual auction, there was some grumbling about the auction format but it was fun to do.

 

[AdamG]

lets all be honest here...

MMAO is about the same as throwing a price tag on it...regardless your going to get low balled, so might as well start from the bottom and work your way up...

Throwing a price on it is the same as throwing a price on it.

 

[OneNine]

So...

I throw my Dk cabaret up for 1k and get offers of 400-500

Why wouldn't i just say MMAO?


Point being the whole reason ppl have issues with MMAO is because they dont know the asking price and if they can get over on someone...

-Brian

I say, put your DK caberet up for 1K and IGNORE offers of $400-500. If you don't even acknowledge unreasonable offers (after posting an asking price), they'll eventually get the point. Or even better...put that in your initial post "unreasonable offers ignored".

 

[bottlejunkie]

and how about this! what if I wanted to sell my Fun Chicken but there is very little data on sold fun chickens? sure theres some data but most of it is old and interest in the game has gotten greater over time. some guys have said they would pay "stupid" money for it(at a convention, it wasn't for sale) but what is that, $500? $300? $200? I have no idea so maybe MMAO would fit in this situation?

 

[Brian12]

Throwing a price on it is the same as throwing a price on it.

true, but the point of that is...

ppl are hoping its dirty cheap...if you throw a logical/realistic value on it, 75% of the time you get low balled anyway on here...

So might as well throw a MMAO thread and see who actually will pay something reasonable...

Also ive done a few MMAO threads and also made a point to say "if you PM with a offer, your not going to get it...I want all offers VIA posts"

but hey, it is what it is

 

[AdamG]

true, but the point of that is...

ppl are hoping its dirty cheap...if you throw a logical/realistic value on it, 75% of the time you get low balled anyway on here...

So might as well throw a MMAO thread and see who actually will pay something reasonable...

Also ive done a few MMAO threads and also made a point to say "if you PM with a offer, your not going to get it...I want all offers VIA posts"

but hey, it is what it is

Put a realistic (although this is generally relative in this hobby) price on it and throw the word "firm" after the price. Will there still be people making an offer probably...but it might detract some idiots. If you put MMAO people might make the conclusion that the seller is broke or doesn't know the value of what they have.

 

[OneNine]

Put a realistic (although this is generally relative in this hobby) price on it and throw the word "firm" after the price. Will there still be people making an offer probably...but it might detract some idiots. If you put MMAO people might make the conclusion that the seller is broke or doesn't know the value of what they have.

Indeed!!!! I think MMAO encourages low-ball offers, not discourage them.

 

[waterss]

I've sold several items here during my short membership and I've always tried to put a price and I've also stated if my price was out of line make me an offer. I've accepted just as many offers less than asking price as i have at asking price.

I normally don't submit an offer on a MMAO threads mainly because I'm relatively new to this and don't want to offend the seller by truly not knowing the value of the item and submitting a lowball.

My biggest complaint is the sellers that erase the price after the sell. That price reference would go a long way to helping us new people see what some of this goes for and be better able to buy and sell.

 

[djsolzs]

I disagree with you on the below - people do sell things because they are broke (which sucks and they need quick sales) or dont know(because they dont care to maximize their moneys.. too lazy... or its too rare)

If you put MMAO people might make the conclusion that the seller is broke or doesn't know the value of what they have.

 

[OneNine]

I disagree with you on the below - people do sell things because they are broke (which sucks and they need quick sales) or dont know(because they dont care to maximize their moneys.. too lazy... or its too rare)

or God forbid....they would actually rather take less than the maximum to see something preserved. Again, the forum is about vintage arcade preservation, not maximum profit.

 

[Brian12]

or God forbid....they would actually rather take less than the maximum to see something preserved. Again, the forum is about vintage arcade preservation, not maximum profit.

nor is it about minimum offers...

Sorry but everyone on here isnt broke, if they were..they couldnt afford to continue the hobby...

everyone on here sells things for profit (90%) to make ends meet buying other games...sometimes ppl take losses, but most of the time they are making money

 

[MTPPC]

3 points:

1. Someone once told me that whoever throws out the first number loses.

2. When I do a live KLOV auction, it's because I need some quick money and I don't want to dicker with tire kickers.

3. In my case, this isn't a hobby and I always have bills to pay: "Nothin' goin on but the rent!" I have a small shop and 2 storage units that require monthly stipends as well as a ton of other expenses. I have a large collection of parts and pieces that need to go, but it takes time away from paying work to manage a sale and pack/ship items safely. I love selling things like owl eye coin doors and boards for repair, but it takes time away from paying work so it has to be profitable or I can't do it. That's why I love selling to local guys. I can sell cheap and make a good profit, but when I have to pack and ship items, the opportunity cost cuts into my pocket. Not whining, just stating the facts. I don't have any help so anytime devoted to selling random items directly cuts into my productivity.

 

[FrizzleFried]

Again, the forum is about vintage arcade preservation, not maximum profit.

To you. This forum "is about" different things for different people and when you start projecting YOUR point of view on others, that's where you come off the rails IMHO.

 

[AdamG]

I disagree with you on the below - people do sell things because they are broke (which sucks and they need quick sales) or dont know(because they dont care to maximize their moneys.. too lazy... or its too rare)

I understand that there are instances, but the point I was making is that a buyer would assume that, even when it isn't necessarily the case.

That being said, I sell games purely to fund my crack habit.

 

[Brian12]

I understand that there are instances, but the point I was making is that a buyer would assume that, even when it isn't necessarily the case.

That being said, I sell games purely to fund my crack habit.

im on meth...you should join....high is way longer

 

[djsolzs]

Isnt admitting it the first step?

I understand that there are instances, but the point I was making is that a buyer would assume that, even when it isn't necessarily the case.

That being said, I sell games purely to fund my crack habit.