Mike Doyle 96 in 1 setup and play

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Loved the video and you're right on the commentary, RE: Mr & Mrs Pacman aren't actually in the maze together, it's true! Since Midway Pacman hardware chokes on anything above six moving objects, we have alternate frame appearances of each character but with the latency of the phosphor in the picture tube, they appear at the same time to the naked eye.

That also explains why sometimes one will disappear during an event like dying or eating a ghost if it occurs during the moment while that sprite isn't drawn. So it ends up looking like a glitch but as you correctly pointed out, that the game exist at all and is nicely playable offsets that occasional artifact. The AI is really fun to fool around with since you can "wipe" off a trailing ghost on your opponent, or play nice and work together. A little more time with that title and a good opponent will reveal a sleeper.

Keep in mind this kit evolved over several years and a lot of collector input so while some things seem odd- Cookiemon or free play -vs- credits on some titles, it was dependent on the space left in the ROM banks, so the extra code needed for free play often meant game required credits or no game. Also, many titles were adapted that never originally had free play but the nvRAM will retain credits for you.

Don't forget there are three more pages of titles view-able by pressing Player 2 to scroll instead of jumping to "other games".
 
Thanks for making this add on, its been an absolute pleasure to play and review! Very clear that a lot of thought went into the decisions behind it, don't mind my yammering and minor gripes...

What is the story behind cookiemon, anyway? That really seems like the odd one out. Was pirhanna too big to fit on the board after mr and mrs for the cocktail version of the kit?
 
Thanks for posting the video! Happy to see mr and mrs Pac-Man. Looks like a lot of fun. I may have to get a cocktail. :)

Mike, any headway on separate saves for regular and faster versions of Pac-Man and Ms Pac-Man?

Thanks!
 
FYI, the game was in MisfitMame the entire time. :) I can share the ROM if you like.

Edit: That's awesome that it's on 96:1! If I had a cocktail I would purchase this kit just for that game.
 
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FYI, the game was in MisfitMame the entire time. :) I can share the ROM if you like.

Edit: That's awesome that it's on 96:1! If I had a cocktail I would purchase this kit just for that game.

Jr... Mr & Mrs Pac-man was written by Dave Widel for this kit. Bootlegging it to play otherwise is not really cool....
 
FYI, the game was in MisfitMame the entire time. :) I can share the ROM if you like.

Edit: That's awesome that it's on 96:1! If I had a cocktail I would purchase this kit just for that game.

Just to be clear, the code work on the 96 in 1 PRE-DATES MisfitMAME, not the other way around. Sometimes contributions are made quietly including a good portion of MAME itself.
 
Oh.... I had no idea. Whoops... I'm sorry. I found it on a list of ROMS for MisFit Mame while I was trying to find the horrid Otto simulation and was totally unaware.
 
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Oh.... I had no idea. Whoops... I'm sorry. I found it on a list of ROMS for MisFit Mame while I was trying to find the horrid Otto simulation and was totally unaware.

Don't you see how ridiculous your apology is? I guess this is symptomatic of the entire emulation ecosystem.

"I'm going to devote my life to 'preserving' the technology by building platforms to pirate the IP, but you are not going to use my platform in any way I don't approve of because the platform is MY IP."

Don't assume you understand my nuanced position on IP because of this comment. It's all just a bunch of nonsense smattered with a huge topping of justification.
 
I don't think I understand your message. I believe it was not clear that I was specifying that you can try the game on emulation, and not that I promote bootlegging as I wrote that comment without knowing the history of the hack.
 
Like I said in my post, "Don't assume you understand my nuanced position on IP because of this comment."
 
Like I said in my post, "Don't assume you understand my nuanced position on IP because of this comment."

What's the reason for posting your comments here? Just to confuse the young lad? Luckily, he appears to have a good understanding of right and wrong.

Perhaps you jumped into this thread without a clear understanding of what we're talking about, so I'll explain:
The code for Mr & Mrs Pac-man can be extracted from the 96-in-1 kit and modified to run on a regular Pac board (sans kit). Is it appropriate to disseminate such ROMs? The answer is no. If you answered otherwise, please keep your twisted logic to yourself.
 
What's the reason for posting your comments here? Just to confuse the young lad? Luckily, he appears to have a good understanding of right and wrong.

Perhaps you jumped into this thread without a clear understanding of what we're talking about, so I'll explain:
The code for Mr & Mrs Pac-man can be extracted from the 96-in-1 kit and modified to run on a regular Pac board (sans kit). Is it appropriate to disseminate such ROMs? The answer is no. If you answered otherwise, please keep your twisted logic to yourself.

Let me make it simple for you. I'm not saying it's OK to copy the Mr & Mrs Pac-man ROM. Just like I'm saying it's not OK to copy the original ROMS to install on these "multis". You say it's "not cool" to copy the Mr. and Mrs. from the guys who are selling their own bootlegged booty.

I didn't really want to come on here and attack anyone, but the hypocrisy is ridiculous. Everyone involved in emulation/game modding/multi-boarding is participating in a morally questionable area. At the same time, IP laws are also morally questionable. I am not making any moral judgements, I am simply pointing out your hypocrisy.

You say it's not cool to bootleg these guys, but their bootlegging is acceptable to you? Please explain.

It's a lot like how most on this board shit on MAME, but most will admit they have it set up on a PC or cabinet.
 
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You say it's not cool to bootleg these guys, but their bootlegging is acceptable to you? Please explain.

The creation and sale of these kits has absolutely zero financial impact on the original IP holders. When someone bootlegs one of these kits that does have a clear impact (on current and potential future projects). I sincerely hope you can understand and appreciate that distinction.
My apologies to Mike and the OP for allowing this thread to get derailed. This is my last post in this thread. If someone feels the need to rant further, please start a new thread.
And thanks again to Mike and Dave for making the best multi-Pac out there! :)
 
Please refrain from arguing topics on which your understanding is so underwhelming. Don't forget that you were the one that tried to stuff a bunch of assumptions in my mouth - especially after I asked you not to.

Sorry for the thread derail. Thanks to the OP for the videos. Next time someone jumps out in front of the bus to defend the indefensible, I'll probably point it out the same. Now once again, how is buying this kit any different than buying a loaded MAME cabinet?
 
And just to fuel the flames, even if infringement of an IP has no fiscal impact on the rights holder, they have the right to control when and how their IP is used.
 
Please refrain from arguing topics on which your understanding is so underwhelming. Don't forget that you were the one that tried to stuff a bunch of assumptions in my mouth - especially after I asked you not to.

Sorry for the thread derail. Thanks to the OP for the videos. Next time someone jumps out in front of the bus to defend the indefensible, I'll probably point it out the same. Now once again, how is buying this kit any different than buying a loaded MAME cabinet?

I have to ask you, if your feelings about IP are so strong, why are you building and operating unlicensed virtual pins? http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=121653.0

There is a key difference between the add on 96 in 1 in that it requires a Midway board to operate and won't function by itself. It is running original code on an original board. That is totally different than emulation running IP on a PC with none of the original IP bundled hardware used.
 
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