Medium Res for Toobin

[Dialsoft]

Hey guys,

I have a medium res monitor in my Toobin but it uses a gonbes or whatever the current name is for one of the chinese RGB to VGA conversion boards. Id like to restore to the original monitor that may have come in the toobin game. Anyone have any idea? Or can you recommend a monitor model that is a easy swap that doesnt require the gonbes board? The only reason I dont want to use that is it makes the screen jump and I dont know why. Also i think the video is not sized right.

Marc

 

[Headgeek]

Unfortunately, there aren't a ton of games that had Med Res monitors... and as a result, I believe a lot of Toobin's had their OEM monitor stripped, so that a Paperboy could work again.

I have a Toobin with a LCD, so I would love to find out if there is a good solution as well...

I ended up buying a second Toobin, strictly due to it still having a Med res monitor.

 

[Dialsoft]

Iw as thinking of going to an LCD but my restoration came out so nice. Id hate to do it.

 

[Tornadoboy]

Someone needs to make a small board to convert med res to standard, then at least people will be able to use CRTs rather than LCDs which always look cheesy.

 

[joeycuda]

Someone needs to make a small board to convert med res to standard, then at least people will be able to use CRTs rather than LCDs which always look cheesy.

Above my pay grade, but wouldn't it be possible to-

1 - Document the mods needed to convert a std res K7000 chassis to med res
2 - Hand re-wind some yokes, Jason Kopp style

My Toobin monitor looks like ass. It's like it's dim, but if you bring up the brightness colors bleed/pink halos. Just never got it to look right, and I've thought it was the tube.

Planning on a swap at some point.

 

[TSB]

Above my pay grade, but wouldn't it be possible to-

1 - Document the mods needed to convert a std res K7000 chassis to med res
2 - Hand re-wind some yokes, Jason Kopp style

My Toobin monitor looks like ass. It's like it's dim, but if you bring up the brightness colors bleed/pink halos. Just never got it to look right, and I've thought it was the tube.

Planning on a swap at some point.

That would be ideal. I've got a Med Res K7000 chassis, but no tube or yoke.
I used a Gonbes clone to VGA CRT in my NARC, but I keep the chassis around in case I ever come across a Yoke for it.
Is your Toobin a K7000? It'd help to have some readings from the Yoke.

The only reason I dont want to use that is it makes the screen jump and I dont know why. Also i think the video is not sized right.

Marc

Those can be adjusted on the gonbes board. I had to fiddle with mine for a while until I got the clamp settings right.

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[Dialsoft]

My toobin is using a u3100.

 

[Interlock]

19" medium-resolution monitors are rarer than hen's teeth, pretty much one of the most prized possessions in the entire arcade hobby. They're THAT hard to find.

Ironically enough after changing back to standard resolution (or perhaps anybody but Atari never leaving standard in the first place) for verrrrrry long time, the arcade companies went BACK to medium resolution in the mid 90's, and then back to standard again for a lot of late 90's games. Go figure. It flip-flopped a whole bunch, with standard resolution reigning supreme.

That second period existed, and is a blessing and a curse, because there's a ton more medium-resolution monitors then there would have been, but they're all 25" versions in style of the 1990s (when 25" monitors were king). Besides the size difference they are functionally identical, though, so they can be swapped barring any structural or fit concerns.

Anyways, as such, there is a metric fuckton of 25" medium resolution monitors around, and I've seen people shove them in Paperboys for that reason... but not sure if you could squeeze one in a Toobin.

Especially with everybody and their mother converting games of the Cruis'n series to LCD they are easy to find

 

[barristr]

Above my pay grade, but wouldn't it be possible to-



1 - Document the mods needed to convert a std res K7000 chassis to med res

2 - Hand re-wind some yokes, Jason Kopp style



My Toobin monitor looks like ass. It's like it's dim, but if you bring up the brightness colors bleed/pink halos. Just never got it to look right, and I've thought it was the tube.



Planning on a swap at some point.

If you're willing to drive, I've got one (removed in good working shape) I stripped out of a trashed Toobin (same one as the PCB that I sent to you) that I'd trade something for. Come to think of it, I still have the waterfall motor, etc. from that game around somewhere as well.

 

[kkcloak]

Someone needs to make a small board to convert med res to standard, then at least people will be able to use CRTs rather than LCDs which always look cheesy.

you have 2 ways to look at this.

1- lcd will make the game playable for you to enjoy (modified my narc no wire damage)
2- wait for a crt and never play it

my choice was easy.

 

[Tornadoboy]

you have 2 ways to look at this.

1- lcd will make the game playable for you to enjoy (modified my narc no wire damage)
2- wait for a crt and never play it

my choice was easy.

Oh don't get me wrong I'm all for using an LCD if there's no other choice, it's better than nothing, but CRTs look far better.

 

[kkcloak]

but CRTs look far better.

no argument there

 

[TSB]

you have 4 ways to look at this.

1- lcd will make the game playable for you to enjoy (modified my narc no wire damage)
2- Gonbes adapter to CGA CRT (not verified, but should work)
3- Gonbes adapter to VGA CRT
4- wait for a med res crt and never play it

my choice was easy.

Fixed that for ya'



I chose #3 because 19" VGA CRT computer monitors are still out there, and I dig the look of CRT.

Wiring and Cab were not hacked, but the monitor was decased and fitted to the cab.

.

 

[Interlock]

Fixed that for ya'



I chose #3 because 19" VGA CRT computer monitors are still out there, and I dig the look of CRT.

Wiring and Cab were not hacked, but the monitor was decased and fitted to the cab.

.

Pretty sure that's what he has now and it's jumpy. Sounds like the previous owner did your method, if I'm understanding correctly.

I think he confused medium resolution & high resolution, as the Gonbes adapter only outputs VGA/high resolution. It's a good way to do it in a weird predicament but if it causing a bounce that is no good

 

[Schusler]

Unfortunately, there aren't a ton of games that had Med Res monitors... and as a result, I believe a lot of Toobin's had their OEM monitor stripped, so that a Paperboy could work again.

I have a Toobin with a LCD, so I would love to find out if there is a good solution as well...

I ended up buying a second Toobin, strictly due to it still having a Med res monitor.

Throw in some NARC machines as well. I was close on gutting one for my APB... just couldn't do it.

 

[pcjohn]

For what it's worth - I have a Toobin with an LCD and a scanlines
generator. The scanlines make it a lot more tolerable.

 

[jdithomas75]

If you're willing to drive, I've got one (removed in good working shape) I stripped out of a trashed Toobin (same one as the PCB that I sent to you) that I'd trade something for. Come to think of it, I still have the waterfall motor, etc. from that game around somewhere as well.

You still have a toobin waterfall motor available?
Actually need a motor and soundboard to fix the toobin I have.

 

[jacklick]

I bet you could put a 25" med res chassis on a 19" tube and make it work something like a kortek 2914 or a WG u5000. No idea about yoke but I would likely try it and just measure HV output. Also, k7000 and 4900 medium res chassis due come up for sale. However, they were so damn hot/burned up that you basically have to Frankenstein repair them.

 

[jcar302]

You still have a toobin waterfall motor available?
Actually need a motor and soundboard to fix the toobin I have.

Do a toobin search, a guy named gegbl recently had a batch made.

 

[highscoreheroes]

There's a mod available now for the Gonbes boards that might alleviate some of the issues you're having, altho I know having the right monitor would be ideal. The mod is called GBS-control and it fixes a lot of the problems that plague the GBS convertors/scalers along with improving the picture. The jumping image might be something you could solve by installing the clock generator mod.