Make An Offer?

[pacman71]

I don't enjoy the make an offer stuff either. I have lost out on deals because when somebody says make an offer ... I start just south of a good price, knowing that they will likely counter with something crazy or reasonable. The worst is when they counter with...that won't get it.

By the time you get done haggling they sell it to someone else because they have figured out from haggling with you what they actually want for it.

I have made the decision to not get upset over anything that I haven't paid for or began making the trip to go get.

 

[vicemikey]

It doesn't bother me as long as someone isn't offended when I send them what I'm willing to pay.

 

[LyonsArcade]

Basically your in full control of what you want to do in this situation and honestly no one is twisting your arm. .

It all comes down to this ^^^^. If somebody says "Make an offer" ask them what they want or make an offer. If you buy it, great, if you don't, no big deal. There are more things to get worried about in the world than proper 'make an offer' ettiquette.

FOR INSTANCE, I just emailed Dj Dns yesterday, said "Hey man, I want this, this, this and this, how much?" he emailed back and said "I'm gonna keep this and this, I'll sell you this and this for this" I said "O.K., here's your money" he said "I'll mail it a.s.a.p." end of story. No big deal. Easy as cake.

 

[ballytablewiz]

I'm on board with nesjess and Phetishboy on this one. I completely ignore "make offer" posts, as it is only a cash grab, hoping to phish for uneducated morons with disposable cash.

You don't list a price? Ignored. And I also lose respect for the seller.

 

[nesjess]

It all comes down to this ^^^^. If somebody says "Make an offer" ask them what they want or make an offer. If you buy it, great, if you don't, no big deal. There are more things to get worried about in the world than proper 'make an offer' ettiquette.

FOR INSTANCE, I just emailed Dj Dns yesterday, said "Hey man, I want this, this, this and this, how much?" he emailed back and said "I'm gonna keep this and this, I'll sell you this and this for this" I said "O.K., here's your money" he said "I'll mail it a.s.a.p." end of story. No big deal. Easy as cake.

I don't know if you skipped over the rest of this thread discussion, but I made it clear I wasn't upset or "worried" about it. I was simply trying to get opinions about a situation that IMO was a waste of time for both of us because it was a "make an offer" deal. I just wanted to know if I was going about it the wrong way for future reference or if there was validity in "make an offer" deals in general.

As I wrote in my original post, I had the same PM back-and-forth with dj dns as you did and did ask what he wanted as well as made an offer. The difference was we were not on the same page since 1. He already had a price in mind for those items, he just didn't take the time to price them. 2. I interpreted "make an offer" as any offer is fair game.

Who knows if he wanted to move items quickly or if he is expecting "market value" or not? I've seen things sell for dirt cheap in the FS section for no logical reason. I didn't approach his "Make an offer" with the idea that I'm going to offer eBay/repro prices or higher. I'm looking to hopefully get a deal. And no, I didn't offer him $10 shipped or anything stupid like that.

But I do agree with you: "If you buy it, great, if you don't, no big deal."

I have no problem with dj dns and I've been happy doing business with him in the past and will be in the future. No doubt, I respect him. I feel like I'm repeating myself for those of you who aren't reading through the thread, so here it is again...dj dns and I didn't agree on the "make an offer" in the end and now we've both moved on with no hard feelings. And I've learned that "make an offer" can mean practically anything whether or not the seller has a price in mind. Just be prepared for a bunch of back-and-forth PMs that I think could be avoided if a price is presented up front.

 

[savit4l8r]

FOR INSTANCE, I just emailed Dj Dns yesterday, said "Hey man, I want this, this, this and this, how much?" he emailed back and said "I'm gonna keep this and this, I'll sell you this and this for this" I said "O.K., here's your money" he said "I'll mail it a.s.a.p." end of story. No big deal. Easy as cake.

Yeah and it was easy because you didn't have to go through all the make offer bullshit, he simply named a price.

 

[LyonsArcade]

That's the point. He said make an offer. I said how much do you want. No big deal. Him saying "Make an offer" didn't impede the sale. It wasn't even a factor... because negotiating money with somebody is EASY. "Make an offer" "I'll give you 20 bucks" "I'll take 30" it's basic math, no big deal.

The whole point is: Who cares? It's simple negotiating. You negotiate with everybody you meet in life. A thread was created to complain because some people don't have the balls to make somebody an offer on something.

You said you created the thread to get opinions, that's mine. My opinion is: I don't care whether people put a price or not.

 

[nesjess]

That's the point. He said make an offer. I said how much do you want. No big deal. Him saying "Make an offer" didn't impede the sale. It wasn't even a factor... because negotiating money with somebody is EASY. "Make an offer" "I'll give you 20 bucks" "I'll take 30" it's basic math, no big deal.

The whole point is: Who cares? It's simple negotiating. You negotiate with everybody you meet in life. A thread was created to complain because some people don't have the balls to make somebody an offer on something.

You said you created the thread to get opinions, that's mine. My opinion is: I don't care whether people put a price or not.

Who said I didn't make an offer? Obviously, you're not reading.

I asked him for a price on 3 items. He gave me a price, I made an offer on 1. He said no and gave me a set price he already had in mind. I asked him if the price of the other items was the difference in the quote. That's when he stopped responding. It wasn't until after I posted this thread that he said I want this much for this item and this much for this item. I think it saves a lot of time if that is said up front. It's not negotiating if the seller chooses not to respond.

Regardless, I'll repeat for the 10th time that everything is all good now and there was no real issue on either end other than to finish negotiating.

I love when guys say harsh words based on assumptions.

 

[Jeff F]

I like "make an offer" deals. I basically write a little note saying what I have to offer and maybe I'll include a little why. Then I usually say something like "if you ever get down to accepting my offer I can be there with my truck in 30 minutes". (or whatever it'll take me to get there)

You'd be surprised at how often that works. I think people get sick and tired of "I know it's worth $500... but wuldya take $42.83 next Tuesday?"

 

[EVB]

The kind of make an offer I hate is when I state a price for a board and the other guy says how about $15 shipped. My caned response is that it would be cheaper for me to burn it. Bye now. Then they get all upset and stuff.

 

[nesjess]

The kind of make an offer I hate is when I state a price for a board and the other guy says how about $15 shipped. My caned response is that it would be cheaper for me to burn it. Bye now. Then they get all upset and stuff.

Haha. That's not "make an offer." That's you clearly state a price and the guy lowballs you.

 

[PhoenixStar]

So whats more annoying?
"Make an offer?"
OR
Posting a discussion of opinions in the For Sale section instead of the proper discussion section where it belongs?
..

Sorry dude, I didn't know you'd get annoyed. I figured it made more sense to post it in this section where guys face this very issue than in the general discussion forum. Does it really matter? And to answer your question. I think "Make an offer" is more annoying.

I see your concern, and I agree that "make offer" is a bit ambiguous in your situation, however Perf is right though. It's just a courtesy to others not to post a thread here that has no intention of making profit. Your fellow Klovers are only trying to make some money for themselves here. Everytime this thread gets bumped, some other Klover probably gets bumped down to the next page may lose out on the opportunity to make some money for him/herself, so it does matter a bit. Unfortunately I could've just bumped someone, but I thought it was just worth mentioning.
BTW i'm just trying to provide a different perspective/insight here, not trying to sound like a yelling parent since its hard to decipher "tone" of text. I hope the offer you made works out for you.

 

[dj dns]

I was going to be done with this, but I just have a few things to clear up. 1. I keep reading that you said I had a set price. This was not the case as I said in this thread to start with. All that stuff I got in I had no idea what I wanted for it. Let me just make that clear. I know the value of some of the stuff and others I don't. The NOS Double Dragon CPO is the example here. All the time I've been collecting I never seen a NOS Double Dragon CPO for sale. Off the topic real quick, if I was trying to get top dollar for this or or take advantage of someone who's new I would give a sales pitch of how super duper rare it is and say I want $200 for it. Since that's not me I also try to be fair and would want to sell it for a price that I would pay for it. So for those who think make offers are to get top dollar or have people bidding against each other is clearly not the case with me (sorry). Back to the topic now. The offer I received was not super low, but I felt was not enough for a NOS item. Also the offer wasn't high enough to buy a repro which I explained. I'm not trying to complete with other sites or items, but I feel a NOS is worth more than a repro. So I'm guessing since I said a fair price imo for the item that means I had a set price in my mind all along which is not true. If he or someone who have came close to that price I would have most likey said ok. But since I felt it was low I gave a price i felt was fair. I didn't have problems with anyone else on this sale post. Also I haven't been able to respond right away to you and everyone else is because i been on the road driving to another state which is why this make offer post was made. If you go back and read my original post you see I said it would be best to make an offer if you see anything you want or can wait till later. Who knows when later will be and if that item will be available. If it was me and I seen something I wanted ill make and offer and try to get it before a real post was made. Would I think this guy was an ass or who lose respect toward him just because of this??? For those who would more power to you. For those who would not even look at the post even more power to you. Youll be upset if you find out some NOS you could have used worth a few hundred sell for an offer of $50, you'll probably want to kick your sell in the ass. That's all I have to say.

PS I'm sure there are a lot of mispelled things, but I'm still on the road and don't have time or feel like making corrections

Who said I didn't make an offer? Obviously, you're not reading.

I asked him for a price on 3 items. He gave me a price, I made an offer on 1. He said no and gave me a set price he already had in mind. I asked him if the price of the other items was the difference in the quote. That's when he stopped responding. It wasn't until after I posted this thread that he said I want this much for this item and this much for this item. I think it saves a lot of time if that is said up front. It's not negotiating if the seller chooses not to respond.

Regardless, I'll repeat for the 10th time that everything is all good now and there was no real issue on either end other than to finish negotiating.

I love when guys say harsh words based on assumptions.

 

[nesjess]

I see your concern, and I agree that "make offer" is a bit ambiguous in your situation, however Perf is right though. It's just a courtesy to others not to post a thread here that has no intention of making profit. Your fellow Klovers are only trying to make some money for themselves here. Everytime this thread gets bumped, some other Klover probably gets bumped down to the next page may lose out on the opportunity to make some money for him/herself, so it does matter a bit. Unfortunately I could've just bumped someone, but I thought it was just worth mentioning.
BTW i'm just trying providing an different perspective/insight here, not trying to sound like a yelling parent since its hard to decipher "tone" of text. I hope the offer you made works out for you.

You're right and that was my bad. That's why I requested to have it moved to General Discussion or simply have it locked.

Unfortunately, that didn't happen. So I apologize to those of you I bumped down including with this post.

Thanks for the input.

And I apologize to dj dns. I didn't mean for you to be called out and it was a misunderstanding we cleared up via PM that no one else was able to see. I did not explain your side clearly by saying you had set prices. I think I just meant to say you had prices in mind for certain items but you weren't able to tell me right away.

I was just explaining events in time of how they happened. Again, I'm not saying you did anything wrong. Just trying to explain why I even asked about this type of situation in the first place.

Big misunderstanding. Period. If I offended you in any way, I apologize.

 

[groffdaddy]

Make offer:
1001 acres of ocean front property in Arizona.

Features:
Live in the same state as the SW chair!!
State full of rednecks
Be near Jawhn

 

[EVB]

You forgot about:
Never receive your mail.

Make offer:
1001 acres of ocean front property in Arizona.

Features:
Live in the same state as the SW chair!!
State full of rednecks
Be near Jawhn

 

[LyonsArcade]

That's all I have to say.

Don't sweat it man. You bought a bunch of shit out of an operator's storage that doesn't see the light of day too much, some people were happy about it others wanted to bitch about it. Ce'st La Vie. You sold me two nice pieces at a nice fair price, I'm glad you posted it up.

 

[Black Matrix]

Make offer posts have become a pet peeve to me as well. I am sick of seeing Klov turned into Ebay. Yes, I buy and bid on Ebay, but I seldom buy arcade parts there for the same reason I don't buy the make offers here. I know what its worth to me, but there will always be someone with more money from a part of the country that is willing to pay more. I see it enough on the ebay, and I like to think of this as a community. I can't say the same for ebay these days. Personally, I think make offer posts should be inundated with the same offer every time they try to turn klov into Feebay. My offer: keep your crap, and go fornicate yourself. The solution is simple. Would be sellers should just put the top end price on the item and then post OBO. If its ludicrously high, most will simply pass on it. For those that really want it, an offer will be made. But don't say, I'm going to take offers for x days and I'll let the highest offerer know. The seller is just testing the waters to see what he can get for it and he's under no scrutiny to actually sell the item or be honest about who got it or how much it sold for. And that kind of secrecy usually just pisses most would be buyers off and that's why I hate make offer posts. Most aren't that bad, but some have been. But hey, that's just my two bits.

 

[nesjess]

I've sent a request to have this thread locked.

We all have our opinions about Make An Offer deals, let's leave it at that. Ultimately, this thread was a result of a misunderstanding, impatience and boredom.

I shouldn't have started this thread in the first place as I didn't give dj dns ample time to respond to me and work our possible deal out privately. I didn't expect him to chime in, but I'm guessing he just wanted that opportunity to explain himself which he shouldn't have had to do if I was fair in explaining his reasoning. As he said, he's been on the road which was the main reason he listed his items as Make An Offer as he would eventually price stuff when he returned home. He was just nice enough to post stuff early. I still don't prefer MAO listings, but that's not what dj dns was firm on doing as he had explained a couple of times already.

To those I offended, again, I meant no harm or to speak bad about anyone as I said in my original post. If I said anything false or bad about dj dns, it was out of frustration towards those who had negative comments towards me for "bitching" which I feel I didn't think I was doing. At least, that wasn't my intention.

So if there's a mod reading this, please lock and move thread. I'm ashamed to have been one to start what has become a stupid drama post. I didn't think it would end up that way. I thought it was over 8 hours ago.

 

[LyonsArcade]

Hint: you're still bitching.

Dude nobody hates you or has any ill will towards you, you're just making a big deal about nothing. Don't worry about it, man! Chill out a little bit! It's just a hobby. Just move on, it's all good!