I have them on my mame setup. I like them can't say I've used them enough to actually have to switch them to 4 way. I would rather have some kind of switchable sticks that "normal" users could switch by themselves, like a sliding switch under the stick or something. Trying to explain the process of switching 8 to 4 way to a non tech person is not easy. Because you have to pull up on the stick, find the "switching slot", turn the stick either left or right and then release. Then you have to remember to switch it back for the other games. I've had people trying to play mortal kombat when I still had it on 4 way...