Lunar Lander on Youtube

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Been playing lunar lander a lot since going to arcrevival's arcade party 6 weeks ago or so. That game is VERY addictive. MAME does not do it justice obviously where its vector based but its better than nothing. Anyways managed a massive score of 2,020 on 750 units of fuel which is one credit and using TG tournament settings. Turned it into a youtube video as there is not much lunar lander stuff on youtube and that is a shame since its such a bad ass game. Anyways here is the link if you want to check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X34MB_P37jM
 
geez. funny how your fuel keeps going up mysteriously right after you land.
 
I love Lunar Lander, I was 12 when it came out, and used to draw pictures of it when I got home, I was so obsessed in it.

I have a PCB of LL and hope to make a cab soon, great game

Thanks for the link
 
when you make a perfect landing on LL

You are awarded 50 bonus points of fuel. I assure you its legit.
 
OK, haven't had the patience to watch it all, but it seems the dude just keeps repeating the same landing on the same spot. Wouldn't true skill be trying for some of the more difficult landing spots mastering all of them?




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The landing spots are randomly generated...

And the 5x spots yield the highest points for a perfect landing. All except 2 of the landings are in the best spot to land which was randomly generated by the game. Usually I have to land on the other side of the first peak or way over on the second peak which is incredibly difficult to do without using a ton of fuel. I am not tooting my own horn here but its incredibly difficult to get over 1500 points on this game. Give it a try its tough no matter where you land.
 
OK, haven't had the patience to watch it all, but it seems the dude just keeps repeating the same landing on the same spot. Wouldn't true skill be trying for some of the more difficult landing spots mastering all of them?
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Yes, that's the problem with playing Lunar Lander "for score" - you basically just keep landing on that same 5X and keep hoping that it will randomly be there again for your next attempt. I actually was going to do the same thing as him and record a video for Twin Galaxies since the "world record" there for LL is so easy to beat, but I got bored of playing over and over just doing the same landing and hoping for the 5X to be there. I actually got burnt out on playing the game entirely and didn't start having fun with it again until I abandoned that strategy and just started messing around and trying to master the other missions. You see, the real game with the truest physics is the hardest difficulty, it's just that it's really tough to get into and so they put the easier missions in there so as to not turn off all the would-be players when they walked up to it for the first time. As a result, you're not really any good at LL, IMHO, until you can land anywhere any time without fail on the command mission. Itetcboo is right, though, MAME does not due it justice at all and it's actually pretty addictive when you're playing in the dark on an actual cab.

And FWIW, I calculated the theoretical perfect score on one credit (with 750 fuel units to start) to be 2330, which would require the game to give you a 5X on the right landing pad 10 consecutive times, of which you would be required to accomplish a good landing 9 times and have just enough fuel left over to land hard on your tenth trip, and then make sure to have at least 1 fuel unit remaining after your hard landing to float down to your death for the 5 point crash...

Oh, and check out the 18th place score on Twin Galaxies... wtf?
 
very interesting about the theoretical max score...

It sound like you to have logged a lot of time on LL. :) I unfortunately am limited to MAME but I have played on the actual game it is very underrated and tons of fun and you are right you put that thing up on command mission (mega difficult) and its tough to land well every time. This is the max score that I have ever achieved but I have also managed 1,760 (my current TG mame world record) and I also have bested that score a few times with the youtube shown personal best of 2,020 and a few in the high 1,800's. Just curious have you ever beat my score of 2,020 or seen anyone exceed 2,000? I to mostly play the game for fun but I record every game I play and if the good spots show up then I land there if not I land at any of the other spots just for fun and I feel I have mastered the game pretty well or at least can hold my own with the best of them. If you notice between time index 4:50-5:48 I managed a pretty efficient landing in a otherwise high fuel usage landing spot. If you have a better way of landing in this spot that uses less fuel if you could describe it I would be appreciate the tip. I am going to keep playing the game but I just don't see how I could pull another perfect landing or two out of my ass as I feel I had conserved fuel throughout the whole game quite well. Maybe I could save 50-75 units of fuel but no more as least with me behind the stick. lol
 
It sound like you to have logged a lot of time on LL. :) If you notice between time index 4:50-5:48 I managed a pretty efficient landing in a otherwise high fuel usage landing spot. If you have a better way of landing in this spot that uses less fuel if you could describe it I would be appreciate the tip.

Okay, I'll give you a tip... you should already know this, but you can change your mission "on the fly," so to speak, by pressing the select button at any time during play. As a result, Twin Galaxies does not specify which mission(s) their scores are recorded for and would presumably accept a score that used any mission(s) during play. Now, as you know, there are different gravitational forces put into play on different missions, with the main difference between Training and the rest being the presence or absence of atmospheric friction.

With all that said, here's the tip: you can use the above information to your advantage by changing the mission (and thus, the physics) mid-game, and as soon as you realize that the closest 5X is on the other side of the peak and much farther away than you'd like. In fact, try this out: start a game on Training, and once the game starts, don't touch the controls at all. Now take note of where your module crashed and then start a new mission on Cadet, Prime, and Command, each time not touching the controls and each time taking note of where you crashed. See the difference? Once you've done this and seen the physics in play for yourself, you'll understand just how easy it is to conserve a lot of fuel by manipulating the game's physics at your whim. The bottom line here is that there are more buttons available during play than just left, right, thrust and abort ;-)

Anyway, for me personally, I no longer do any of that strategical garbage because I think it's cheap, even though it would "count" for Twin Galaxies. Actually, I don't really play for score at all any more, for whatever that's worth - I exclusively play on Command and, at this point, can land on surfaces that aren't even 100% flat... :p

Well that was long-winded, but hey, you're the one who asked!
 
Okay, I'll give you a tip... you should already know this, but you can change your mission "on the fly," so to speak, by pressing the select button at any time during play. As a result, Twin Galaxies does not specify which mission(s) their scores are recorded for and would presumably accept a score that used any mission(s) during play. Now, as you know, there are different gravitational forces put into play on different missions, with the main difference between Training and the rest being the presence or absence of atmospheric friction.

With all that said, here's the tip: you can use the above information to your advantage by changing the mission (and thus, the physics) mid-game, and as soon as you realize that the closest 5X is on the other side of the peak and much farther away than you'd like. In fact, try this out: start a game on Training, and once the game starts, don't touch the controls at all. Now take note of where your module crashed and then start a new mission on Cadet, Prime, and Command, each time not touching the controls and each time taking note of where you crashed. See the difference? Once you've done this and seen the physics in play for yourself, you'll understand just how easy it is to conserve a lot of fuel by manipulating the game's physics at your whim. The bottom line here is that there are more buttons available during play than just left, right, thrust and abort ;-)

Anyway, for me personally, I no longer do any of that strategical garbage because I think it's cheap, even though it would "count" for Twin Galaxies. Actually, I don't really play for score at all any more, for whatever that's worth - I exclusively play on Command and, at this point, can land on surfaces that aren't even 100% flat... :p

Well that was long-winded, but hey, you're the one who asked!

Awesome tip, thanks, will be trying that
 
I appreciate all the good tips...

The harder missions are indeed a lot more challenging and yes you can get over that first peak a lot easier on the harder missions due to the less "resistance". I did a quick search of LL on the KLOV and it didn't yield much stuff but it did turn up this link where you said that you had reached 1,875 points
http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=96887&page=3
Thats a very respectable score good job! You should totally submit a score to TG. I would if I had easy access to a machine.
 
^ Yeah I could/should, but like I said, I'm really sick of sitting in front of the machine and doing that exact same landing over and over again hundreds of times while I wait for the CPU to randomly give me the right 5X landing pad nine or ten times in a row. A friend even lent me his camera so I could make a video, but I just can't bring myself to do another 10,000 identical landings. In fact, by the time I gave up, I could land on that spot without looking at the screen at any time during the sequence (and no, I'm not kidding about that)...

But congrats on the MAME record, and if you've got it in you, go for the real record next time you're in front of the actual cab; you and I both know that the score up in lights is quite easy to beat...
 
I love the people that sit there and say "Oh I can blow this score out of the water".... yet have nothing to show for it. No pics no video.

Then always followed up by, "But I can't be bothered with doing anything to prove it........hell I can do it with my eyes shut."

Don't tell it unless you can prove it.

As itetcboo, has done. He's proved it, I.E. World record and Video.

Dr. Morbis has not proved anything, except clout and smoke. (until proven otherwise)

Hell, I can sit here and make up scores all day and post to try to impress everyone. But the proof is in the pudding I.E. video or pic or TG world record.

Now I have not doubt that you have put your time in for LL, Dr. Morbis.

However, it's hard to believe until we see it. As we say here on the klov.

No pic or it didn't happen...



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^ Um, did you perchance read the last couple of posts in this thread, Blades??? If not, here's a recap: my high score on LL is 1,875, which itetcboo has already beaten, and thus I have nothing to prove. I was offering up pointers on playing LL, but for your sake, Blades, I hereby officially concede that I have no evidence of any kind to prove that I have ever played a game of LL in my life, nor that I could even attain a score above zero. There... good luck misinterpreting that.

No pic or it didn't happen...
Hahaha... "No pic" it is :)
 
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^ Um, did you perchance read the last couple of posts in this thread, Blades??? If not, here's a recap: my high score on LL is 1,875, which itetcboo has already beaten, and thus I have nothing to prove. I was offering up pointers on playing LL, but for your sake, Blades, I hereby officially concede that I have no evidence of any kind to prove that I have ever played a game of LL in my life, nor that I could even attain a score above zero. There... good luck misinterpreting that.


Hahaha... "No pic" it is :)


Ummm, how am I misinterpreting your posts? Yes, you did offer advice, that I don't dispute.

However you have said the following:

----"Anyway, for me personally, I no longer do any of that strategical garbage because I think it's cheap, even though it would "count" for Twin Galaxies. Actually, I don't really play for score at all any more, for whatever that's worth - I exclusively play on Command and, at this point, can land on surfaces that aren't even 100% flat"

----"I actually was going to do the same thing as him and record a video for Twin Galaxies since the "world record" there for LL is so easy to beat, but I got bored of playing over and over just doing the same landing and hoping for the 5X to be there."


----"In fact, by the time I gave up, I could land on that spot without looking at the screen at any time during the sequence (and no, I'm not kidding about that)..."


Now, I'm not saying that you could or couldn't beat the posters score. I don't care if you do or don't, I'm just saying that with BIG claims like these above, you should be able to back it up.

However, if you can't be "bothered" with such things then, I guess we'll just have to regard your claims as "Myth" until shown otherwise.

BTW it's not hard to post a picture of that "easy to beat" TG score.



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^ Then feel free to regard them as "Myth" :)

And just an FYI, Lunar Lander is a "continue with your score intact" type of game (possibly the first one ever) and so it's not as simple as just taking a pic of your score after you're done like with most other games. You could just add as many quarters as you liked such that you finished up with the screen showing whatever score you wanted it to display before pulling out your camera and snapping the pic; as a result, proving anything on a real LL cab isn't quite as simple as just whipping out your camera after the fact.
 
^ Then feel free to regard them as "Myth" :)

And just an FYI, Lunar Lander is a "continue with your score intact" type of game (possibly the first one ever) and so it's not as simple as just taking a pic of your score after you're done like with most other games. You could just add as many quarters as you liked such that you finished up with the screen showing whatever score you wanted it to display before pulling out your camera and snapping the pic; as a result, proving anything on a real LL cab isn't quite as simple as just whipping out your camera after the fact.


Myth it is then.

And you are right about the snapshot scenario, however many cameras do video, which is something that you can post also.

Too bad that you talk a big game, yet do not show anything for it. Perhaps in the future then, Or perhaps you will make an excuse for not doing it in the future, who knows.




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