Lunar Lander CP hardware pics

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Can anybody let me know how all the bolts and washers and fiber washers are assembled on a Lunar Lander CP ? I've got the thruster done and the buttons are clear enough but I would love to know exactly how to mount the mission light wood and bezel.

I've looked at the manual but the picture is very small and unclear.

I guess pics would be most helpful, thanks.
 
There are some threads on here that show that wood mission panel and light board mounted.. I think my restore threaad might have pics.. Dont have time to look now, getting loaded for the Seattle Show.. If you dont have pics when I get back from the Seattle Show on Sunday.. I will shoot some.. Also freeplayinc had a thread that might show it:)
 
Gotta give you a HUGE thanks for pointing me to that original LL mission light PCB on eBay, it arrived safely a couple of days ago !! One transistor had bad solderings so I redid all solderings on the PCB. I found new light bulbs practically next door to me for a very good price and cleaned the board very well (while I was soldering anyway I removed the lamp holders so I could clean under them ;)

So....I'm ready to assemble the mission light stuff to the CP. I still have the original long carriage bolts including washers and wing-nuts to fix the entire set up to the CP.

I tried to find your restoration thread but can't find it. If you have some time to find it and send the link...much appreciated !
 
Huh, I even followed that one ! That was when LL was an impossible grail for me :)

Dez, I also dug up your LL thread which is still one of the most hard core and inspiring threads to me. Especially your treatment of the metal Band that is around the CRT.....my monitor is going to need that too....and a lot of sanding of the entire frame as its quite rusty.

Anyway, I think I figured most of it out already. If someone can give me a hint on how "high" the mission light PCB is supposed to be up from the wooden frame, I can probably fix it.
 
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Such a shame I am not natively English ;)

Anyway basically:

The PCB that carries the mission lights is screwed onto the wooden frame with two screws. However, the drawings in the manual indicated several washers, both fiber and nylon, probably to create some space between the wood and the PCB, I guess for letting the hot air escape from the "pockets" and also not to touch the thruster. I found all those non-metric parts listed but I'm sure I can recreate something similar with stuff I may already he at hand.

So I'd like to know the distance between the top of the wood and the PCB board. It's probably something like half a cm.

Also....I am still not quite sure how all the carriage bolts work. Basically all of them seem to be 1/4-20 but with various lengths.
The 4 on the thruster are already there (came with it) and are 3/4" long as far as I see it in the manual.

Next, there are 4 more 1/4-20 carriage bolts on the upper part of the panel. The two on top go through the mission light bezel and wood. I think those two a fixed with a nut and then when you close the panel they will again be tightened with a wing-nut.
A bit lower there are two more 1/4-20, I think the same length, and these go straight to the sides carriers to fix the cP to the cabinet, also tightened with a wing-nut. I wonder what lengths these are and If I am correct. The drawings are not very clear about this...

Thanks !
 
I am thinking those are the 1-3/4" carriage bolts. I am still looking for them in black oxide but as someone else pointed out I'll probably have to buy the nickel plated and paint. The other hard part is finding ones where the threads go all the way to the top.
Here is what they specify for the control panel:

Fiber Washer with 5/32" inside Diameter x 3/8" Outside Diameter x 1/8" thick.
1/4-20 x 1-3/4" Round Head Square-Neck Black Oxide Steel Bolt.
1/4-20 x 1-1/4" Round Head Square-Neck Black Oxide Steel Bolt.
1/4-20 x 3/4" Round Head Square-Neck Black Oxide Steel Bolt.
I am not sure where the 1-1/4" goes. I probably need to get both the 1-1/4 and 1-3/4 - I believe the manual also specifies 2 of each. The 3/4" I'm sure are for the thruster.
 
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Yeah, I've been studying the manual like crazy for all that stuff. I think the 1 1/4" is an error and should simply be the 1 3/4" one's.

You can see on the drawing where the cab is projected sideways that the top 4 (2 on the drawing) bolts are the same length.

These all are fixed to the side supports in the cab. The top-most one's go through the mission light bezel.

Indeed the short ones are for the thruster (3/4").

I've given up on finding exactly what is used to fix the PCB to the wood, no-one seems to be able to give the answer and I figured I would have to use metric stuff anyway. I found some nice plastic spacers to raise it up from the wood a bit and with two metric screws and washers the PCB will stay on nicely.
 
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Mmmmm, I was wrong about the 1 1/4" one's.

I just checked the CP that was originally on my LL cab (which was severely hacked up to turn it into Asteroids) and there were still two bolts on it, together with washers and nuts.

This were the lower two (so the one's that fix to the side-rests in the cab but do not go through the mission light bezel.

These are actually the same length as the one's where the CP is fixed to the cabinet (3 of them) at the piano hinge....
 
As for affixing the light panel to the control panel wood, I'm thinking they are
#6 x 5/8" pan head self-threading screws.
It also looks like there is a 1/4" nut directly behind the wood and in between the bracket. Then a quick release nut holding the panel to the bracket. Seems odd having 4 quick release nuts.
But alas I just had Brett do me another wood piece as mine was bowed pretty good. I have to go to Menards some time and see if I can find some carriage bolts to get the CP portion done. So your a little ahead of me.
 
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Ok, got around to finding the proper bolts. I got the 1-3/4" and 1-1/4" carriage bolts. Had to paint the bloody things as I couldn't get them in black oxide.
So anyways, I got to install the wood bracket to the metal. Well, for all practical purposes you HAVE to have a 1/4" nut in between the wood and bracket for the sake of being able to open the CP to access the monitor and not have that wood flopping around. But by doing that, the 1-1/4" carriage bolts are then too short to go through the bracket at the back (furthest from monitor) portion of the CP - I even tried reversing them and there's just not enough to get through the wood AND the bracket.
So, yea I think they were on cocaine when they did the instructional drawing for that. I'm pretty sure all 4 of the Carriage bolts on the CP securing it to the metal brackets are 1-3/4". I'm also using 4 wingnuts on the underside.
I'm also pretty sure the carriage bolts that do not go through the wood and just go to the bracket - do not get nuts securing them to the CP itself. You just pull those out.
Looking it over again - they do list 3 1-1/4" bolts - but those have to be from the hinge to front panel. I think where they screwed up was only listing 2 of the 1-3/4" rather than the 4 that are needed.
 
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