light guns with lcd's

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some of the newer shooter games have lcd monitors.
why cant a shooter game with a crt be replaced with an lcd then?
is it new light gun /lcd technology?
id really like to replace certain older shooter games i own with lcd bcuz im sick of repairing crt and pulling 100 pound monitors in and out of games to repair.

any kits, secret ways, or anythign else to do this yet?
been doing it to my driving games and its awesome.
most 25 and 27 inch monitors any res breakdown too often period.
 
The LCD's do not have enough contrast (blacks are not really black) plus there are video sync timing problems between and LCD and an optical gun.
 
And they don't emit the right kind of light for the light guns uv I think.... and they don't refresh one pixel at a time on ofter the other. So it would never work with original light gun tech
 
seems like a conversion board or something could make it work. they make converters to use vga lcd in any res game now with a converter pcb...in the past people didnt think that would happen.
there is a gun on ebay right now for around $100 that comes with a bar you set on top of an lcd to make it work for pc and ps2,ps3 etc games.
there has to be something in the arcade world now or near future that would enable a convert.
 
You're thinking about your Target Terror, right?

It won't work. Period. Traditional lightguns require the scanning beam of a CRT to function. An LCD has no such beam.
 
target terror, sight 4, max force, johnny nero....all of them...
any light gun game.
once again, how do the new games like ghost squad, terminator salvation work then?

they use lcd and dont have base mounted guns like silent scope series ( whicu can use lcd in cuz silent scopes arent light gun based.0)
 
target terror, sight 4, max force, johnny nero....all of them...
any light gun game.
once again, how do the new games like ghost squad, terminator salvation work then?

they use lcd and dont have base mounted guns like silent scope series ( whicu can use lcd in cuz silent scopes arent light gun based.0)

I don't know about those specifically, but Time Crisis 4 uses an infrared CCD that picks up infrared LED beacons that are positioned around the screen. This combined with quick calibration gives better tracking than a traditional lightgun, and operates completely independently of the monitor -- it'll track correctly even if no monitor is connected. This means a completely different kind of sensor, that produces a totally different signal, so it's not something you can just drop into another game.
 
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The one you're thinking of with the bar, is the LCD Top Gun...I have a set, but I haven't tried them yet. Reviews were good and I couldn't beat "Free" when they were offered.

There's no simple retrofit for an old game though, there would have to be input conversion done from the sensor bar(s) of LCD guns, something you'd have to do on your own and would require in-depth knowledge of both the target machine and the guns hardware.
 
The only games that can be converted to LCDs are the ones that use either a mounted potentiometer-based gun or one of the "beacon" ones described above (i.e. has infrared LEDs around the edge of the monitor).

Easy way to tell if a game has the IR LEDs around the edge for the gun: use your cell phone camera (they pick up infrared and show it as regular red on the screen, even though you can't see it with your eyes).
 
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