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Time to break my silence, and take meaningful, co-ordinated legal action
against Dave Adams and RAM Controls.

I had hoped something like this would have taken root already,
but since it hasn't, I will initiate this thread to keep this topic
at the fore-front so that Dave clearly understands that this is NOT going away .

Dave owes me alot of money and he's in for a very nasty surprise
if he thinks I'm going to bend-over...

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I've tried in vain to contact Dave about the money he owes me,
and despite my best efforts to remain patient,
I've had enough of his blatant lies and excuses,
and now have to accept the fact that nothing short of criminal charges
and threatened jail time will get any results.


I have A LOT at stake here, and I'm angry and frustrated that it has come to this,
so I will have no hesitation to play hard ball,
and seek jail time for him if need be.

I KNOW Dave lurks on this forum without logging on,
and I want him to see first-hand how serious I am about this...

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Although I'm encouraged to see a unified front of disapproval and anger at his tactics,
(...and take small solace in seeing I'm not alone in my quest..)
no-one has taken ownership of pushing for legal action against him.

Since I (regrettably) probably have the most at stake,
I am willing to lead the offensive to push this matter forward for all involved.

What I seek in this thread is information to be shared by all
to help put a case together against Dave,
gather any info from anyone who has recent (or on-going) contact with Dave,
and establish key contacts in CA to have a "local" presence in Dave's backyard.

The goal is to work cohesively, as a group, to get the results we want
and keep this issue in his face until he owns-up .

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Alot of information and suggestions have already been offered,
so my hope is to consolidate all this information and direct it
to the proper Authorities.

I personally have enough evidence to seek grand theft charges against him
and will certainly push for jail time if I don't get what is owed to me...

A conviction should be fairly easy given the slew of evidence
and information stacked against him.

He's good at lying and conning, but not so much at covering his tracks...

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I plan on attacking this from a legal and civil front.

Legal to get him in jail, and ruin his "employability" with a criminal record,
and civil to sue him for damages.
(...I plan to go after the amount he owes me, interest,
and ALL expenses [legal, collection agencies, etc..] needed to recover my money )

I've already spoken directly to the California DA's office
(which are aware of him and working on a case ).
and have also spoken to Detectives at the Corona police department.

I am also looking for legal representation in CA
so if anyone knows a lawyer, or IS a lawyer, please let me know.


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So what's the plan ?


1- Identify "victims" and amount of claim
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This is already well underway on this spreadsheet.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc...oamlQZldvRTQwYXc&hl=en&authkey=CPDFuqsL#gid=0

but for those (like me) who would rather keep their money-owed amount
private and not have it on public display on the web, you can PM me with this info
and I will compile a confidential list to complement the existing on-line spreadsheet.

NOTE : I will keep this info in the strictest of confidence,
and will only release it to legal authorities.
Do not be embarrassed to say how much you are owed...
...It's almost certainly less than me anyways...


( Also, if possible, contact other people from other forums who might not be on KLOV. )

This will give us a better idea of the number victims and amount of Fraud.
The larger we can prove the fraud to be, the more weight we'll carry in Court.


For those wishing to contact/PM me directly, please provide :
Your name
City, State, Zip ( house address is optional, and at your discretion)
Value of transaction
Date of Transaction
Paid how ? ( Paypal ? , mailed payment ? , bank transfer, etc...)

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2- File on-line Fraud charges.
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As posted in a previous threads,
there seems to be two Agencies dealing with this type of theft.

CA Dept of Justice: http://tinyurl.com/2gkbw7

US Dept of Justice: http://www.justice.gov/criminal/fraud/


Combined, these two Agencies should have ample resources
to find and prosecute him for fraud and theft.


So PLEASE fill out the on-line forms if you have not done so already.

Also, I would invite everyone who has submitted a Fraud claim
to PM me with the details. I'd like to know how many people have actually made a claim.


The more claims are submitted, the higher up the queue it gets looked at.
So it doesn't matter if your claim is big or small,
but the volume will dictate a trend.

I am also in contact with Detectives at the Corona Police Department
who are following this case. If you want to contact them directly,
PM me for contact information.


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3- Dave's contact info.
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I want his home address and phone number.

I have personally sent some money orders to 2845 Rosebud Circle, Corona, CA,
but some people have mentioned that he lives at 992 Randall Ranch Rd, Corona
(which is currently listed as a house for sale, NOT owned by Dave) .

It is suspected that he might have several addresses
or rents at different houses.

Lots of people have apparently sent him a bunch of stuff,
so it should be easy to determine what his address is...

His current cell phone is : 714 396-2532
Other cell numbers I have are :
951 496-3321 (Dated Jun 2010, no-one answers)
951 496-4132 (Dated Jun 2010, no-one answers)
714 892-5336 (Other Business name : Empire Prototyping, Jim Bloomquist )

If anyone has a VERIFIED address and/or phone number for his principal residence,
please let me know.

(...I'd love to talk to his wife to see if she's fully aware of the hole
he's digging for himself and his family.
Somehow I suspect she doesn't know the half of it..)

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4- People living in CA, near Corona
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Being on the wrong Coast, and north of 49th parallel (Canada),
I don't have easy access to legal authorities in California.

So I'm looking for any local help I can find.
If you know lawyers or police officers near Corona CA, let me know.

I'd also be curious to know if anyone was living close enough to Corona
to do a "re-con" mission to see what they can find...

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5- Civil Class-Action lawsuit.
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The criminal charges will no doubt cause him some grief,
but there is no guarantee of restitution.

That's why I want to go after him in Civil court, and make him pay for what he owes,
and have safeguards that any assets or wages are garnished to make restitution.

I don't think a court battle will be very long or difficult
as the evidence against him is overwhelming
(...I personally have a SIGNED contract from Dave Himself
as well as numerous e-mails from him admitting he owes me the money... ).

It should take a Judge about 5 min to find him guilty.

We can also sue for damages (interest) and legal fees.

But what I need is legal representation in CA.

I can pretty much prepare the entire case,
but I'd need someone to represent us in court.

If anyone has any contacts (lawyers) that can help with that, please let me know.
Like I said, this is slam dunk case, and legal costs can be claimed against Dave.

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So That's it for starters...

I'm hopeful that as a group we "might" pressure Dave to make good,
but the reality is that we'll probably have to nail him to the cross
before we get anything from him.

And despite what some might think,
I'm pretty sure Dave has a lot to lose in this battle, so we do have some leverage.

He "is" a family man, and I'm sure he "does" have money.
So the treat of jail time and an expensive legal settlement should be of grave concern to him.


...and Dave, as you're reading this,
let's be absolutely clear that I have the means and resolve to see this to [your] bitter end.

I've given you MORE than enough chances to make good,
now I'm coming out swingin' ....


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So remember folks , PM me with :

1- What Dave owes you (if not already on the spreadsheet)
2- If you've filed a legal complaint. And if so, where
3- Info on Where he lives (or any contact info)
4- If you have any local or legal contacts in CA or in Corona


I will do my best to respond to all PMs,
and will keep all info strictly confidential,
but I suspect I'll get hammered with messages,
so please be patient.

Lastly, for the sake of brevity, let's try to keep this thread "on-topic".

There are plenty of other Dave/RamControls threads to kick around,
so let's try to keep this thread on topic and only post information pertinent
to building a legal case against Mr. Adams...

Thanks,
Steph
 
For those who filed a complaint with the CA DoJ,
you should have received something like this....
 

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Steph I feel for you and all the other good and decent people here who were swindled by this piss ant David Adams. I personally didn't lose anything as I read some threads before I ordered anything from RAM. That being said, I would still be willing to give a small contribution to legal action against him if you were to set up a fund and keep all contributors aware from time to time where things are. I have to imagine there are other KLOVers who would want to contribute as well, because let's face it when people who function here understand there is a serious threat to being sued if they pull crap like this it just serves to make these forums safer for all to do business.
 
yay steph!!!!


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Im glad to be lucky enough to dodge the "ram" bullet for the most part. Sucks some other folks werent so lucky.
 
If the legal action isn't done in a coordinated way then you guys are probably wasting your time. I'd think a detective with 30 complaints in front of him about the same guy is going to be far more likely to act than one with 1-2 complaints. A DA too.

So good for you, Steph!
 
I would still be willing to give a small contribution to legal action against him if you were to set up a fund and keep all contributors aware from time to time where things are.

Thank you, I very much appreciate that.

Others like you have also PM'd me to offer financial support.

And I may very well start some kind of community legal fund,
but this won't happen until I start any kind of serious negotiations with lawyers.

At this point, I'm still hoping to find KLOV members willing
to offer Legal assistance at "preferential" rates.

I'm also in direct contact with the CA DoJ as they yield a much bigger stick
and have far more legal resources than we could ever afford.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease,
... and believe me, they'll know me on a first name basis...

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Thank you for your support,
... and I promise to keep everyone well informed of what's going on.

Steph
 
If the legal action isn't done in a coordinated way then you guys are probably wasting your time. I'd think a detective with 30 complaints in front of him about the same guy is going to be far more likely to act than one with 1-2 complaints. A DA too.

I spoke to some Detectives at the Corona Police Dept,
and I also have a good friend who's a Detective here in my home town.

The Detectives in Corona were receptive to my plea,
but said that since complaints were already forwarded to the CA DoJ,
they would take their lead from them, and not duplicate their efforts.

So the Detectives in Corona are now aware of Dave,
and have seen the spreadsheet and read these threads.

My hope is to get the DoJ to co-ordinate with the Corona Police Dept
to launch an investigation.

This is why the more people we have making noise at the DoJ,
the more attention we'll get from them.


Steph
 
SO awesome!
Great job man. I too dodged the "RAM bullet", luckily. Came close on that Turkey Day sale thing he did though.
Lots of luck and If there's any legal fund I'd gladly contibute.

ERIC
 
I work/stay 15 minutes away from Corona in Riverside during the week. Let me know if I can be of any help, though the need for this may be less if the cops are involved. Based on recent information provided, I would lean towards believing that he is in Orange County now. I could be wrong.
 
What information do you have that he is in Orange County ?

Thanks,
Steph
The last dozen or so posts in the other RAM thread starting around 510 indicate that he is still currently doing business. The 714 area code associated with the recent activity is in Orange County.
 
Putting this all out here on a public forum is a mistake in my opinion. Dave should have no idea what you are doing.

I agree.

My initial post was a call to arms to get people involved
and demonstrate that I've already done some preliminary legwork

I don't plan on giving a play-by-play of what I'm working on....


Steph
 
Yes and No! There's nothing quite like knowing trouble is coming, but not quite sure when it will strike. Let the palpitations begin!


He should know something is coming when he is served with an official summons. Not sooner. Letting him know something is happening is like letting a burgler know you have a gun. My Dad had a theory on that, he said before you let a burgler know you have a gun, you should file the sights off it first, so when the burgler takes it away from you and shoves it up your @ss, it wont hurt as much. The first time a burgler should know you have a gun is when you shoot him with it. I think the same idea applies here.
 
He should know something is coming when he is served with an official summons. Not sooner. Letting him know something is happening is like letting a burgler know you have a gun. My Dad had a theory on that, he said before you let a burgler know you have a gun, you should file the sights off it first, so when the burgler takes it away from you and shoves it up your @ss, it wont hurt as much. The first time a burgler should know you have a gun is when you shoot him with it. I think the same idea applies here.

LOL! Seems he's already trying not to be found, so knowing he has legal action coming his way won't change much of anything, but I get your point and it is a good one, yet the only real efficient way for Stephan to mount a concerted effort is to post on here. Ying and Yang I guess.
 
. My Dad had a theory on that, he said before you let a burgler know you have a gun, you should file the sights off it first, so when the burgler takes it away from you and shoves it up your @ss, it wont hurt as much. The first time a burgler should know you have a gun is when you shoot him with it. I think the same idea applies here.

i love that
 
I would ask anyone who put a deposit on the Star Wars cockpit (or U/R),
to PM me with the details.

EVEN THOSE WHO GOT THEIR MONEY BACK.

I'm trying to get an accurate count of how many people sent deposits.

I know some of you were lucky enough to get your money back,
but I'm trying to get an idea of how many people actually sent him money for these.

I know of at least 5 confirmed buyers, but I'm sure there are more.

So anyone who sent ANY money for SW cabs,
please PM me.

Thanks,
Steph
 
Hey Steph,
You might want to hit up ArcadeShop (if you all haven't already talked). I'm pretty sure Steven got taken for a good chunk of change (and I don't know how often he reads this forum).

Edward
 
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