Konami Viper - Repair - NETWORK CHECK

BazwhiteUK

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Hi Guys

I have a Warzaid that i am trying to get going. I purchased it with a faulty PCB and i manage to find a 'working' viper board (from a code one despatch)

The board was not socketed - so a guy here in the UK socketed it for me - it looks to be a good job. He also re-programmed a new RTC chip for Warzaid - he said he thinks he got it right..

So, I got it back today and it does indeed pass the RTC check.. Yay..!

However, the board then goes into a NETWORK CHECK and then times out to a NETWORK BAD CODE: 2-1010-0000 error.

I think the board was from a CODE ONE DISPATCH game before - I have adjusted the 4 DIP switches to what it says in the Warzaid manual .. no joy.

Any help would be great
 
If your using the Mame code this is why. The only dump in mame is for the 4 player cabinet and is looking for the other unit for the other players.
 
If your using the Mame code this is why. The only dump in mame is for the 4 player cabinet and is looking for the other unit for the other players.


damn what a pain. Hopefully then I can pull the code off my RTC and help.
 
I have it. The best thing for anyone that owns any of the konami vipers is to dump their rtc before it dies as the Mame dumps don t always work or have the correct regions.
 
I have it. The best thing for anyone that owns any of the konami vipers is to dump their rtc before it dies as the Mame dumps don t always work or have the correct regions.

Agreed!



space space space
 
Warzaid - Stuck in Network Check

Ahh - OK that kinda makes sense.

I am using the original CF card (well the one that came with the game at least) .... So does that mean that its the code thats been blown to the new RTC chip?

Have i understood you correctly?

If that is the case, can anyone supply me with a single cab Warzaid programmed RTC ?

If I'm wrong and its the code on the CF card, can anyone supply me with a single cab Warzaid programmed CF card ?

Its just a nice cab and i hate to see it broken for spares :-(

I would of course be happy to pay for the service

Thanks again
 
Ahh - OK that kinda makes sense.

I am using the original CF card (well the one that came with the game at least) .... So does that mean that its the code thats been blown to the new RTC chip?

Have i understood you correctly?

If that is the case, can anyone supply me with a single cab Warzaid programmed RTC ?

If I'm wrong and its the code on the CF card, can anyone supply me with a single cab Warzaid programmed CF card ?

Its just a nice cab and i hate to see it broken for spares :-(

I would of course be happy to pay for the service

Thanks again


yea, if you used MAME sourced file for the RTC, then that's the issue.

I'm having the same issue everyone else is with the ST made RTC's and I'm waiting for Dallas one's to arrive. If I can successfully use those I may be able to help you out.
 
Thanks for the info - I appreciate the help

If you could sort out the correctly programmed RTC chip ... That would be great.!

If you need anything from me in the meantime - just let me know

Baz

yea, if you used MAME sourced file for the RTC, then that's the issue.

I'm having the same issue everyone else is with the ST made RTC's and I'm waiting for Dallas one's to arrive. If I can successfully use those I may be able to help you out.
 
Thanks for the info - I appreciate the help

If you could sort out the correctly programmed RTC chip ... That would be great.!

If you need anything from me in the meantime - just let me know

Baz


yea man, I have 4 more vipers to resurrect myself as well!
 
Thanks for the info - I appreciate the help

If you could sort out the correctly programmed RTC chip ... That would be great.!

If you need anything from me in the meantime - just let me know

Baz


Ok, so I just successfully tested the Dallas DS1225Y NVRAM.
gameplay works great, so far no issues with attract that I can tell.
game settings saving just fine as well.


I used MAME ROM wcombatu.zip (using file "Warzaid u39 c22d02")
with both C22D02 and C22C02 CHD files

I did not read and use my own working RTC, apparently didn't need to. Good news. Though what tipped me off what file to use was the markings on my board; C22 UC. Well saved me time, I was intending on trying all combinations lol

I didn't look at the others but I can confirm both MAME ROMS wcombat.zip and wcombatk.zip are indeed multicab ROMS like you said MrSinister, and sit at the network check screen forever.

You have a single cab, use the wcombatu.zip ROM. this was pulled from the 0.193 set


Baz, you still wanna chip?
 
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Ahh - Well done

My gamecard says C22 C02 & it is a single 2 player cab.

So ... we might me in business (fingers x'd)

I would really appreciate a chip.

I will PM you

Thanks for your help

Baz


Ok, so I just successfully tested the Dallas DS155Y NVRAM.
gameplay works great, so far no issues with attract that I can tell.
game settings saving just fine as well.


I used MAME ROM wcombatu.zip (using file "Warzaid u39 c22d02")
with both C22D02 and C22C02 CHD files

I did not read and use my own working RTC, apparently didn't need to. Good news. Though what tipped me off what file to use was the markings on my board; C22 UC. Well saved me time, I was intending on trying all combinations lol

I didn't look at the others but I can confirm both MAME ROMS wcombat.zip and wcombatk.zip are indeed multicab ROMS like you said MrSinister, and sit at the network check screen forever.

You have a single cab, use the wcombatu.zip ROM. this was pulled from the 0.193 set


Baz, you still wanna chip?
 
UPDATE - Working :) with a small gun issue.

The chip arrived Saturday.. but the missus had me cleaning the patio and painting the decking yesterday... its bank holiday weekend here (we have Monday off) and the sun is shining.

So, I'm off work today and I've installed the chip and BINGO its booted up - Success..!!

I've also given the cage a good polish and its looks great in there now... with the new PSU.

This is the first time the unit have been working since i purchased it in its sickly state.. and I do have one small problem with the 2nd Player gun. After some investigation and playing...

The guns fires OK when the trigger is pulled ... and it knows when the player shoots outside of the screen because it defends but it appears that the left and right doesnt work.
It try to explain a bit better.. when firing i can see the red tracer flash on the extreme right of the screen. i can fire and the i can make the tracer flash go up and down... but it wont go inside the screen.

So, pointing the gun in the centre of the screen and firing .. translates to a shot being fired in the middle but on the extreme right of the screen.. fire at the bottom in the middle and it goes to the bottom on the right side... i hope that make sense.

Any ideas that that might be? I havent taken the gun apart yet - though i would ask the experts first :)

Thanks to all for all your help so far and i hope we can figure out this gun
 

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The chip arrived Saturday.. but the missus had me cleaning the patio and painting the decking yesterday... its bank holiday weekend here (we have Monday off) and the sun is shining.

So, I'm off work today and I've installed the chip and BINGO its booted up - Success..!!

I've also given the cage a good polish and its looks great in there now... with the new PSU.

This is the first time the unit have been working since i purchased it in its sickly state.. and I do have one small problem with the 2nd Player gun. After some investigation and playing...

The guns fires OK when the trigger is pulled ... and it knows when the player shoots outside of the screen because it defends but it appears that the left and right doesnt work.
It try to explain a bit better.. when firing i can see the red tracer flash on the extreme right of the screen. i can fire and the i can make the tracer flash go up and down... but it wont go inside the screen.

So, pointing the gun in the centre of the screen and firing .. translates to a shot being fired in the middle but on the extreme right of the screen.. fire at the bottom in the middle and it goes to the bottom on the right side... i hope that make sense.

Any ideas that that might be? I havent taken the gun apart yet - though i would ask the experts first :)

Thanks to all for all your help so far and i hope we can figure out this gun

Awesome! glad it worked!!


I'd say pull the gun apart, clean the lens as much as possible, if there are scratches that could be hurting it. put it back together and re-calibrate and see how much that helps. I've fixed guns just becasue of crud on the lens; but the lens could be damaged, or the sensor inside could be, but it sounds like it's operating.
 
Ok, so I just successfully tested the Dallas DS155Y NVRAM.
gameplay works great, so far no issues with attract that I can tell.
game settings saving just fine as well.


I used MAME ROM wcombatu.zip (using file "Warzaid u39 c22d02")
with both C22D02 and C22C02 CHD files

I did not read and use my own working RTC, apparently didn't need to. Good news. Though what tipped me off what file to use was the markings on my board; C22 UC. Well saved me time, I was intending on trying all combinations lol

I didn't look at the others but I can confirm both MAME ROMS wcombat.zip and wcombatk.zip are indeed multicab ROMS like you said MrSinister, and sit at the network check screen forever.

You have a single cab, use the wcombatu.zip ROM. this was pulled from the 0.193 set


Baz, you still wanna chip?

Is the Dallas DS155Y NVRAM a battery free won't suicide solution?

Can you try it on Jurassic Park 3? (Also a viper PCB.)

I may need to buy both from you if you have it working. :)
 
Is the Dallas DS155Y NVRAM a battery free won't suicide solution?

Can you try it on Jurassic Park 3? (Also a viper PCB.)

I may need to buy both from you if you have it working. :)


correct, it's NVRAM, with a listed data retention of 10+ years


I could give it a shot, but I thought JP3 was a slightly different board, lemmy do some reasearch
 
Is the Dallas DS155Y NVRAM a battery free won't suicide solution?

Can you try it on Jurassic Park 3? (Also a viper PCB.)

I may need to buy both from you if you have it working. :)



Got it working using the jpark3u ROM; what markings are on your CF card?
 
Got it working using the jpark3u ROM; what markings are on your CF card?

B41

I got a pair of boards when I got it and the other was converted (and didn't work) from a code one dispatch. So, I can't saw that a previous owner didn't change.
 
B41

I got a pair of boards when I got it and the other was converted (and didn't work) from a code one dispatch. So, I can't saw that a previous owner didn't change.

I don't think it'll be a problem that it was a code one dispatch


besides the Jurassic park, you needed a Warzaid as well? Any CF cards to go with or are you good?
 
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