Killer Instinct question

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For those of you with KI boards, what happens when you boot the board without a HDD or CF set up? Does it come up blue? Black screen? Checker pattern? A weird sound?

I'm just curious as to what it's 'supposed' to do.
 
looping blue bar (iirc it doesn't fill the screen and just loops again).

checker pattern is BAD news and means you need a repair (CPU damage most likely)

KI2 will say "Danger Danger"
 
So a looping blue bar without a hdd means the board is OK just no drive?

if it's looping then it's not fully reading the drive, and either the drive is bad/missing/there is board damage somewhere. (it may not be visible damage)


I actually have one right now that goes 1/4 the way down the screen then resets repeatedly, about to send it for repair.


I think a ram error can also cause it to loop. the same board above had no ram and would just flash a single blue line and reset constantly.
 
Well the reason I ask is there's a guy selling a "non working" KI but it has no drive. Ive asked him what it does when he tests it but haven't heard back.


I figure maybe he claims its nonworking because he doesn't have the hdd
 
Well the reason I ask is there's a guy selling a "non working" KI but it has no drive. Ive asked him what it does when he tests it but haven't heard back.


I figure maybe he claims its nonworking because he doesn't have the hdd

a very good possibility, if you find out, report back.

if it's the crosshatch pattern like the pic i attached, it's bad town :( (have you seen a picture of the board? is the heatsink still on the CPU (that's a major red flag if it's missing)).
 

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Its been a while but I recall a blue screen and it says "danger danger" if the hard drive has failed or is missing. I dont think its just KI2, I believe KI1 does this as well.
There is alot of info on this page http://www.thekillerinstinctproject.com/

One think to check when working with an unknown board is to make sure the boot rom is correct and check the eprom jumper. I have bought boards off ebay three times that were sold non-working. Two of the boards were just missing the eprom selection jumper and one was a board that had a CF card kit without the upgraded boot rom. The best thing to do is burn an any-ide boot rom for it.
 
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Its been a while but I recall a blue screen and it says "danger danger" if the hard drive has failed or is missing. I dont think its just KI2, I believe KI1 does this as well.
There is alot of info on this page http://www.thekillerinstinctproject.com/

One think to check when working with an unknown board is to make sure the boot rom is correct and check the eprom jumper. I have bought boards off ebay three times that were sold non-working. Two of the boards were just missing the eprom selection jumper and one was a board that had a CF card kit without the upgraded boot rom. The best thing to do is burn an any-ide boot rom for it.

When i was very very new at arcade stuff i actually attempted to make my own adapter (before CF kits were available, when scott at revisionx still offered hard drives) and i hooked the power to the adapter wrong and definitely smoked it, never got the "danger danger". It was very long ago tho and i could be wrong (this was about 7-10 years). it was a hard lesson learned but learned fast and etched in stone (i don't like playing around with these boards to much)


His site is a wealth of info tho and he's a great guy i highly recommend getting to know that site.

that's funny about the jumper, on my prototype board it's actually a solder blob. Using the Any IDE is definitely a fantastic idea as well, just make sure to back-up your old rom just in case (Scott mentioned there's still a possibility of another prototype boot rom i'm told, but it's been a while since anything significant has been found.) the CF with no any ide is even funnier, glad it went in the right hands.
 
It wouldnt hurt to jump the pins with solder anyways. As far as I know they never used 8meg roms on the board, just had the capability to expand the board if they needed to. Jumping the pins would eliminate any problems later with it.
 
Well that seller is a fucking idiot. Hes refusing to answer any questions claiming that the one vague answer he got to resolves everything.
 
Oh sorry this is an auction on eBay. its not a member being a retard,as far as i know. I can't get the auction link here but if you search for ki on eBay, there's one that's currently at like 26 bucks. I see two heat sinks on it but the guy just "answered" someone's question and he started it with "to answer EVERYONE'S question..."

So clearly he's been asked several times. So I contacted him and told him to at least look at the screen and tell me what happens, does it blue screen, rolling blue bar, black, crosshatch, conjure the devil? And I told him it would behoove him to answer the question properly so he could sell at a higher priced and his answer was...

"Your gain, my loss I guess."

WTF.

Ten I noticed that he has something like 15 negatives in the last 6 months. I'm gonna pass. I mean come on, just get off your duff and take 2 minutes to check and answer the question properly.

As far as I know it's not Burger, but it sure sounds like it is.
 
my first KI board I bought came from a dealer off ebay, when I went to buy it though and asked him to test it he fed me some line about how he had no JAMMA cab to test it in. what bullshit.

when I got the board, it had the white line pattern on it. wound up peddling it to someone that needed SRAMs or something, so it worked out kinda.

that incidentally was the 2nd board I ever tried to buy, so now I know better. ;)
 
I once got lucky and bought an "untested" ki board for $80! And when I booted it, it worked great. I think the hdd might have been going out but still, I got real lucky.
 
I remember the "Danger Danger" very well. It was a loose hard drive cable but I can't remember if it was the KI or KI2 board. Plugged it in, turned it on and the loudest "Danger" would bellow out of the speaker freaking me out. Fun times..
 
yeah. I think I have an original drive or two that's error free. maybe one had 1 error, but I operated that drive commercially.. it never messed up.

I can't wait until I get my KI cab back. gonna be relocating some of my games to climate-controlled storage soon.. can't wait until I get this moving business finalized.

I mostly reached the conclusion that KI's a bit risky to acquire for dirt cheap. I know several guys that took the risk and got hella lucky, but money's been tight for me for so long that I decided that if I want it, I'll just pay full boat.

luckily guys like channelmanic and Chad have the ability to fix the broken boards now at least.
 
luckily guys like channelmanic and Chad have the ability to fix the broken boards now at least.

Geniuses right there! I highly recommend both!

Sounds fishy on the ebay board if you ask me, but $26 + shipping... worth a gamble...? maybe... (personally I wouldn't bid but i have a 100% repaired and working pair).


Since we're sharing stories. The KI2 I got repaired in my restoration thread was given to me free when I bought a NBA Jam TE boardset off a local eBayer. Great guy I really need to pay him a visit and return the favor.
 
Its been a while but I recall a blue screen and it says "danger danger" if the hard drive has failed or is missing. I dont think its just KI2, I believe KI1 does this as well.
There is alot of info on this page http://www.thekillerinstinctproject.com/

One think to check when working with an unknown board is to make sure the boot rom is correct and check the eprom jumper. I have bought boards off ebay three times that were sold non-working. Two of the boards were just missing the eprom selection jumper and one was a board that had a CF card kit without the upgraded boot rom. The best thing to do is burn an any-ide boot rom for it.

Confused, but that comes easy to me.

SO I also have two Killer Instinct 1 games that I am prepping to sell. BOTH played a bit on boot up, but quickly went to that BLUE screen that slowly scrolls down.

So this LINK appears that it is an EASY fix?? Just like a $35 part?
Or is this a hard drive issue and it will need a completely new drive? Any KI NEWBIE talk is much appreciated on this. LOL!
 
Confused, but that comes easy to me.

SO I also have two Killer Instinct 1 games that I am prepping to sell. BOTH played a bit on boot up, but quickly went to that BLUE screen that slowly scrolls down.

So this LINK appears that it is an EASY fix?? Just like a $35 part?
Or is this a hard drive issue and it will need a completely new drive? Any KI NEWBIE talk is much appreciated on this. LOL!

could be a hard drive issue. if you have original hard drives try hammering the test switch when you turn the game on to get in test mode and just do a Disk Check on it. if it doesn't even find the hard drive at all in there then that's bad lol

you need a good hard drive to test against them unfortunately to know for sure. I'm also not 100% sure, but a bad CPU MIGHT cause the blue screen too, I would inspect the legs on there just to also be sure (with a magnifying glass)
 
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