Killer Instinct Coming to xboxONE?

[Tighe]

They should have used a namco excella or whatever it is called. You know the one that Prairiedillo has.

 

[kidrivers]

Yeah, Ki does look cool, a bit too street fighter4/mortal Kombat-ish though, I really love the game mechanics of the older ki's but I know they have to compete. but it was no "mix up" with the drm. Microsoft executives/spokesmen made too many arrogant statements about their new policies, one of which was drm and it blew up in their faces. I had decided to go the ps4 route after the xbox one debacle, until they backtracked on everything because of the outcry. I now am going to get both systems instead of just the ps4, and ill have Ki on launch day.

 

[darkcat1]

the pricing model on the new KI is riddled with microtransactions and a continually incomplete game. Honestly with the character pricing the way it is you'll be paying $100-$200 just to get something that we would pay $60 for

 

[Mattroid]

What my wife said about the new KI (keep in mind she was a huge KI fan on SNES):

fucking... tiered pricing for a game? what the christ is this shit

'costumes and accessory packs'

boys not so different from girls after all

just buy me a motherfucking KI arcade cabinet

 

[Sectorseven]

I thought the complete game is now free?

 

[twistedsymphony]

I thought the complete game is now free?

yes and no...

you get the "complete game" meaning all game modes, but you only get 1 character that you can play as (Jago).

beyond that you can buy characters and outfits piecemeal for $5 a character. Or you can buy a "season pass" and get all of the content in one purchase (which is cheaper than buying it piecemeal).

here's the pricing break down.

you can download the game for free and play as Jago online. Should you decide you want to buy one or two characters, you can do so at $5 each (which is about the average price for DLC fighting game characters). If you want all eight currently planned characters (six at launch), you can pay $20 for the next tier. The "Ultra Edition" will cost you $40, and will net you eight characters, accessory packs, costumes, and the original Killer Instinct game in arcade form.

The 8 characters are as follows:
1. Jago
2. Saberwulf
3. Glacious
4. Chief thunder
5. Sadira (the only new character)
6. Black Orchid
7. Spinal
8. Fulgore

they plan to do a second season, and IIRC a 3rd season depending on the game's popularity.

...and along side the regular game they're releasing an arcade perfect port of KI1.

 

[Mattroid]

Don't be surprised if you see more and more games released like this over the next few years. It's like they're trying to go the 'mobile' pricing structure route or something.

I can see some benefits to this sort of structure, but I think they're doing it wrong in this case with the pricing being a bit much.

Then again, it's just opinion. Similar routes have worked for games over the last few years with the whole season pass thing.

 

[twistedsymphony]

Don't be surprised if you see more and more games released like this over the next few years. It's like they're trying to go the 'mobile' pricing structure route or something.

I can see some benefits to this sort of structure, but I think they're doing it wrong in this case with the pricing being a bit much.

Then again, it's just opinion. Similar routes have worked for games over the last few years with the whole season pass thing.

Lots of games are ALREADY doing that... it's the whole "free to play" business model that started with PC and were popularized by facebook and mobile games

The PS4 is full of these F2P games too, a good number of the launch titles work that way.

KI isn't even the first fighting game to try it, Dead or Alive did it first.

 

[Mattroid]

Lots of games are ALREADY doing that... it's the whole "free to play" business model that started with PC and were popularized by facebook and mobile games

The PS4 is full of these F2P games too, a good number of the launch titles work that way.

KI isn't even the first fighting game to try it, Dead or Alive did it first.

Well, I meant more in terms of don't be surprised if it's the majority of games. It's getting close, but I wouldn't say it's the standard yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is the standard in another couple of years.

 

[KidVidiot]

It's a good deal if you're a Jago main

Otherwise you're still only paying $20 for 8 characters right? So say there are two more seasons at the same price, you've still only just then topped out at normal msrp, versus another fighting game (say Injustice) where you start out at full msrp *then* pay on top of that to buy the new characters.

Of course, the whole thing still seems odd to me and I don't think this is the pricing setup they should have done for two main reasons - 1. They are an untested company when it comes to fighting games so they have a lot to prove, and 2. Killer Instinct is an old IP that has been dormant for a long time so your built-in audience is going to be smaller than the more popular series' that have had continued output throughout the years.

 

[twistedsymphony]

Well, I meant more in terms of don't be surprised if it's the majority of games. It's getting close, but I wouldn't say it's the standard yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is the standard in another couple of years.

I suppose it depends how you define "standard". I have no doubt a lot of games will go that way, particularly games with an on-going online component.

However, I have a hard time believing that AAA titles like Assassin's Creed or Grand Theft Auto would ever move to a free to play model.

Ultimately the game companies are going to do whatever makes them the most money. F2P makes sense for a Mobile platform where you're lucky if someone opts to spend $1 to download your game. But Console titles are used to people dropping $60 a pop, it's hard to say if F2P would actually end up being more profitable in the long run.

Right now it seems they're just testing the waters, though so far I don't think it's been very successful (IIRC the F2P DOA was a complete flop).

It's a good deal if you're a Jago main

Otherwise you're still only paying $20 for 8 characters right? So say there are two more seasons at the same price, you've still only just then topped out at normal msrp, versus another fighting game (say Injustice) where you start out at full msrp *then* pay on top of that to buy the new characters.

Of course, the whole thing still seems odd to me and I don't think this is the pricing setup they should have done for two main reasons - 1. They are an untested company when it comes to fighting games so they have a lot to prove, and 2. Killer Instinct is an old IP that has been dormant for a long time so your built-in audience is going to be smaller than the more popular series' that have had continued output throughout the years.

Those reasons seem like EXACTLY the reasons they would want to try this F2P model with the new KI.

If you're unsure about a new fighting game because it's from an untested developer and for a franchise that hasn't seen a sequel in 2 decades would you be more likely to ...

A. take a chance and drop $60 on the game.
or
B. download the game for free with full access and 1 character and the option to buy more if you decide you like it

B. seems like the no-brainier pricing model to me.

 

[CMAC]

Buy a "Day One" Live Gold card and get "Shadow Jago" for free

Now they have a "pin ultimate" edition for $59.99 which gets you the full 8 character game plus a couple of pins and a collectors case/book which is good for just the pins since there is no DVD.

Then you need that $200 joystick to play it properly

Ugh. Anyone want to trade an XBOX One for my dedicated KI2?

 

[twistedsymphony]

Buy a "Day One" Live Gold card and get "Shadow Jago" for free

Now they have a "pin ultimate" edition for $59.99 which gets you the full 8 character game plus a couple of pins and a collectors case/book which is good for just the pins since there is no DVD.

Then you need that $200 joystick to play it properly

Ugh. Anyone want to trade an XBOX One for my dedicated KI2?

You seem really intent to get rid of that thing... There's no way I'd give up my dedicated KI2 cab for an XB1.

Why not just just sell the cab and then go buy an Xbox if that's what you really want?

Also, no one has a new XB1 to trade since it doesn't come out until Friday.

 

[CMAC]

Just lamenting the cost to get playing the new KI.

Do you really think I know all this info on the new KI and didn't know the XB1 isn't released yet?

 

[indecks]

8 characters for the full game?

What is this, 1991?

 

[twistedsymphony]

8 characters for the full game?

What is this, 1991?

It's a "free to play" model which means they'll slowly trickle out new characters as time goes on.

at release there will actually only be 6 fighters available.

2 more have been unveiled and the have plans to release at least 16, or as many as 24 depending on how well the first 16 sell.

Just lamenting the cost to get playing the new KI.

Do you really think I know all this info on the new KI and didn't know the XB1 isn't released yet?

I don't know what you think.

I do know quite a few people who thought the console was already out because Target accidentally shipped a few hundred units a few weeks early, so there's quite a few people out there already using them.

 

[darkcat1]

It's a "free to play" model which means they'll slowly trickle out new characters as time goes on.

at release there will actually only be 6 fighters available.

2 more have been unveiled and the have plans to release at least 16, or as many as 24 depending on how well the first 16 sell.

so you're paying $60 for an incomplete game with probably another $100+ to actually have the real game. Also for an added bonus there's no arcade mode or story mode for your $60

I so need a KI1 arcade cabinet!

 

[redorlando101]

Rare and Double Helix made a mistake screwing with KI. Just look at the promotional arcade cabinet...http://madcatz.com/e3-2013-killer-instinct/
The machine is hideous. Where is the side art? These people should have at least used a Midway style cabinet. I'm sure the local arcade would have given these guys a Midway. I'm going to pretend this game does not exist much like Robcop 3.

 

[RetroGamerJP]

So I got the XBOX One and KI was the first thing i downloaded. $39 for the complete setup with all six current fighters and two additional fighters once they release. Also comes with emulated original version of KI that lets you choose between 1.4 and 1.5 releases. Only thing is it absolutely sucks trying to play with an xbox controller. Cant wait for my madcatz sticks to arrive although they do not release until 12/13. Even then I think I'll still play my dedicated KI over the emulated version that comes with the new KI. still nice to have the option.

 

[KidVidiot]

Rare and Double Helix made a mistake screwing with KI. Just look at the promotional arcade cabinet...http://madcatz.com/e3-2013-killer-instinct/
The machine is hideous. Where is the side art? These people should have at least used a Midway style cabinet. I'm sure the local arcade would have given these guys a Midway. I'm going to pretend this game does not exist much like Robcop 3.

I'm not seeing a promotional arcade cabinet in that link? I'm assuming you don't mean the viewlix...

so you're paying $60 for an incomplete game with probably another $100+ to actually have the real game. Also for an added bonus there's no arcade mode or story mode for your $60

Nope. Please actually read the thread.