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I made a thread on Kalan714, and so did someone else. My attempt to merge the two ended up destroying both threads apparently. Merging threads isn't vbulletin's strong point.

Take 2:

I have to run a the moment so I'll edit this thread later.

In short, the purpose of this thread is to discuss

1) Kalan714...and whether he is selling parts etc from Ramcontrols that RC either sold to other people, borrowed, or bought will other people's money, and thus, whether said selling should be stopped here.

2) Kalan714 apparently used his paypal account to collect funds for RC. How long did this go on (for those that don't know), are any of these people due refunds still, and if so, why haven't said refunds happened.

There is more, but everyone can repost what I deleted and more I'm sure.
 
Things that would be nice to hear Kalan's take on:

1. His acceptance of paypal funds on behalf of RAM Controls
2. His refund(s) of funds on RAM's behalf to member(s) here at KLOV.
3. The pallets of RAM wares he has shown up selling here, some including boards that were the same titles of ones RAM had on loan from RAM.
4. The listing of RAM products in his signature.
5. The exact nature of his relationship to Dave/Adam, whom he called a "good friend."

Kalan I want to believe people have got it all wrong here. That is easier that accepting I am a massive misjudger of character in this case, as I had you down as one of the good guys to this point. But the above information would tend to indicate that you are either incredibly stupid or complicit. And if it was the former, I would expect you to be a little more forthcoming with information in the desire of covering your own ass. For whatever reason that has not happened to this point. And you know what that leaves us with. So I think there are a number of people here who were swindled by RAM, some presumably with your assistance and the use of your paypal account, who deserve to get a few answers. And you say...
 
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Although it may not be the safest approach, aren't there enough guys local to them to scout out some of these places and confront them?
 
I stand corrected kalan seems to be a good guy with many vouching for him. I say let him be.
 
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I made a thread on Kalan714, and so did someone else. My attempt to merge the two ended up destroying both threads apparently. Merging threads isn't vbulletin's strong point.

Take 2:

I have to run a the moment so I'll edit this thread later.

In short, the purpose of this thread is to discuss

1) Kalan714...and whether he is selling parts etc from Ramcontrols that RC either sold to other people, borrowed, or bought will other people's money, and thus, whether said selling should be stopped here.

2) Kalan714 apparently used his paypal account to collect funds for RC. How long did this go on (for those that don't know), are any of these people due refunds still, and if so, why haven't said refunds happened.

There is more, but everyone can repost what I deleted and more I'm sure.

In answer to your question some of the parts I am selling I received as payment for money owed to me from Dave. Obviously its not cool to off them so i'll defiinitely stop. Now the other parts such as boards I have not sold anything out of the first lot of parts I got from Dave. In fact I did lose more money on the deal because part of the reason I bought the lot was for some vector pieces that I sent back to DPtWIZ.
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Originally Posted by DPtwiz
i have received back the following items through Kalan and Juanup, who were nice enough to help retrieve some of my items:

Foodfight boardset
Millipede boardset
Gravitar boardset X2
Food fight brackets



I had not been in touch with Dave for probably close to a year before I bought that stuff. Oddly enough I responded to a Inland Empire CL ad that had an Atari Assault a friend of mine was looking for. Very shortly after the response I got a call from Dave and he had mentioned he was getting rid of some parts so I bought the parts because the price was more than fair. As far as the paypal goes I explained that story prior but i'll state it again. I don't remember exactly how I met him but I believe he had bought a tempest and some other games off of me. He was very cool to me and gave me a lot of pointers and repair tips on vectors. (Keep in mind this was 3 or 4 years ago I believe) He had let me know that he was remaking parts and if I could do his paypal. He said in return I would get free parts and such. No harm right, well the rest is pretty much history. During the time I was taking payment I actually had sold all of my games (my last one was my zookeeper to Joe) After that I had a couple of mustangs and that was my hobby for probably a year or so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJurZjQ7C9g&feature=youtu.be

The paypal was never really that busy and most of the money that went into it was sent to sealbeachguy. Dave probably got about 2k cash from me out of paypal. I actually forgot that I was still receiving for him because there was absolutely no sales for a long period of time and that is when I took his email out of my paypal account. As far as i'm aware I had one guy EVB that was owed money that I took money from and I was on Dave non stop about it and he had someone who owed him money pay him back. I believe it was Stephen Beal Mylstar. One other person I know was owed a yoke and I did what I could but could not get a response so I gave him what I could of the parts that I received because it was a very good friend of mine. So technically he is still owed from RAM. Dave was someone I talked to frequently and was not aware that he screwed people out of that kind of money. He obviously made a shit load of horrible decisions and is ultimately going to pay for it. I had not talked to him for awhile and believe that I was'nt receiving any payments through my paypal anymore because they were being redirected to Sealbeachguy. I don't know who daves alias's are but there are enough people on the group who know me and have dealt with me. I'm not sure but as far as this quote goes
6. I believe he works here:Global Transport Corp. owned by Adam Judd and Jim Bloomquist.

I've been at the same job for close to 12 years so you can throw that out. Its nobodys business to know where I work but I work hard and take care of my family first and foremost.
I'm not a hard person to find and don't appreciate the thought of someone scouting me out. Thats pretty uncalled for, unecessary and disrespectful to me and my family as I have been helpful too many on the forums and will continue to be. I realize I made a mistake by helping Dave and vouching for him and i'll do what I can to help out. As far as the parts go i'll go ahead and take them off as they don't belong on the forums seeing the controversy they create. As far as the boards go that I recently listed none of those are from Dave. I do buy outs all the time. Where do you think I got all of those vectors and other parts. There are a lot of old operators and technicians out here that I know because i've been into the hobby for a long time. So finding loads of parts is nothing new to me. I still have 3 deals in the works, one is for another load of vector parts.

Things that would be nice to hear Kalan's take on:

1. His acceptance of paypal funds on behalf of RAM Controls
2. His refund(s) of funds on RAM's behalf to member(s) here at KLOV.
3. The pallets of RAM wares he has shown up selling here, some including boards that were the same titles of ones RAM had on loan from RAM.
4. The listing of RAM products in his signature.
5. The exact nature of his relationship to Dave/Adam, whom he called a "good friend."

Kalan I want to believe people have got it all wrong here. That is easier that accepting I am a massive misjudger of character in this case, as I had you down as one of the good guys to this point. But the above information would tend to indicate that you are either incredibly stupid or complicit. And if it was the former, I would expect you to be a little more forthcoming with information in the desire of covering your own ass. For whatever reason that has not happened to this point. And you know what that leaves us with. So I think there are a number of people here who were swindled by RAM, some presumably with your assistance and the use of your paypal account, who deserve to get a few answers. And you say...
As far as you go Andy i'm not sure where you come off trying to interrogate me especially after I was willing to help you move your game from CAX down here and store it for a couple weeks. We had talked more than 4 times in person at CAX and you bring this up here on the forum now instead of to my face? Thats pretty cowardly if you ask me especially after I was willing to help you out and store your game.
 
I'll vouch for this information. This matter was settled quite a while ago. andys80s can go fuck himself though. :cool:

As far as i'm aware I had one guy EVB that was owed money that I took money from and I was on Dave non stop about it and he had someone who owed him money pay him back. I believe it was Stephen Beal Mylstar.
 
As far as you go Andy i'm not sure where you come off trying to interrogate me especially after I was willing to help you move your game from CAX down here and store it for a couple weeks. We had talked more than 4 times in person at CAX and you bring this up here on the forum now instead of to my face? Thats pretty cowardly if you ask me especially after I was willing to help you out and store your game.
This is all information that has been sent to me and come to light in the past couple days, which of course makes that impossible, before that I simply had no idea. Since the same M.O. had already started that had been used in the past, my goal was to expose those who are players so that additional people will not lose money. I of course do not know exactly who those are. That said, I figured if you are really out for the community and have nothing to hide, then you would not mind clearing that up for the community here. If you think I'm a jerk for looking out for others here in light of what has happened, then so be it. You've certainly been much less than forthcoming to those who have asked questions in the past. But, it is what it is.

I still have one question though. In light of the information that has come forward, would you be willing to contribute the information you know regarding Adam Judd to steph or site ownership to help out those scammed by him here?
 
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If I knew who Adam Judd was I would have already forwarded it to Steph. I have no idea who Daves alias's are. I spoke w/ Steph months ago about this and anything he needs from me i'll definitely help him with. As far as you go Jerk is a light way of putting it.
 
I will vouch for Kalan, once he found out some of the stuff he bought from Dave was actually mine, he returned it, and went out of his way to retrieve my other items, and juanup also helped out a bunch with the shipping.
 
If I knew who Adam Judd was I would have already forwarded it to Steph. I have no idea who Daves alias's are. I spoke w/ Steph months ago about this and anything he needs from me i'll definitely help him with. As far as you go Jerk is a light way of putting it.
So let me make sure I understand this. Here is a thread from February:

http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=171367&highlight=judge

Just over 4 months ago, you were over making a deal at your "good friend" Dave's house selling that product here and being abrasive with anyone who dare question the mere sense of impropriety of doing business with a known conman. You're claiming:

1. You see absolutely nothing wrong with this? You don't even think this shows bad judgement?

and

2. That within a matter of months of this, you did a complete 180, contacted Steph and told him all the information you know including phone number and address regarding Dave Adams?
 
I just want to put my 25 cents in right now, and excuse me if I don't belong in saying so, but I will anyway ;) I have known Kalan for about 7 years now, I see him every now and then, parties, arcade auctions.... anyway, I have a good sense of who Kalan is, and he is one of the most helpful people I know. He goes out of his way for anyone, just so that person is happy. He does it for the passion of the hobby and he makes a lot of others happy. Kalan is not only a great father, he is a great friend. I have no idea what was talked about and involved with about Ram controls, and Dave's dealings, but I most certainly think Kalan had no idea this was what he would be involved in. Kalan is not about screwing others, that is the total opposite of who Kalan is. What a terrible situation everyone is in and I really hope everyone gets their money or items back.

Dave
 
I have had a few dealings with him as well over the years, and I have watched him 'operate' on here. I have never known him to do the wrong thing.

good guy in my book.
 
glad to see Kalan come on and give his side.
I understand that people want to know and do have vaild reason questioning every aspect of this along with any and all known contacts.

But back when this started the last time Kalan did what he could to help right those wrongs
and did it out of his own pocket to help you guys not fully knowing the extent of the damage or how far the hole really was.

Ive even talked to him about this even in person and like previously posted feel he on the up. I really think you dogs are barking up the wrong tree on this one
Kalan really is good in my book as well.
 
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