Just got a SF2 Big Blue cab. Have ?'s

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Well I got the SF2 cab home yesterday. Paid $200 for it. Plays great and the monitor is superb. Its overall pretty nice but it does need some things. I have some ?'s about a few things if anyone can help.


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First off, is this original? Isnt it supposed to be a fluorescent light?




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Whats with the marquee? Certainly light wont shine through the cardboard. Does it peel off or am I missing something?




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These are holes with metal threads inserted. What went here? Maybe side art with plexi over it? The other side does not have any holes.




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Above is th Q sound amp. The RCA wires arent hooked up so I dont have Q sound. I see no where to plug them in????


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This bezel indicates some other version of SF2 that is not in this cab because when I play you CANNOT choose to play as a boss! Someone actually downgraded this cab to the original SF2. Does this have anything to do with the Q sound not being hooked up?

Thanks all!
 
-Lessee. Not sure about the backlight for the marquee originally being flourescent, as I've not had one of the big blues.
-Marquee might have been put on cardboard, could have been adapted from a cardboard bezel, something like that. The originals definitely are able to be backlit, though admittedly I've not seen a SFII WW marquee up close in a whooooooole lotta years. I have a couple SFIICE marquees that are peel & stick, but they don't have cardboard backing.
-Not sure about the screw holes. If they're there on one side and not the other, it's likely something an operator did to them on route.
-That's a Street fighter world warrior board, CPS1 system, which didn't support q-sound. I think that started with the CPS2 stuff. Not q-sound compatible either was:
-The bezel is for SFII Champion Edition. That's the one which started w/ being able to fight as the bosses and do character vs character.

Hopefully someone can pop in with answers about the marquee backlight. If those lights are functional it should work fine with a marquee that's translucent reguardless of whether or not it was originally flourescent.
 
Since you can't play as a boss you most likely have the World Warrior board set. The marquee matches this as well. A board that uses the q-sound option will have a place for the audio cables.

I don't know about the marquee light, it certainly doesn't look original but the frame doesn't look original to me either. Are their any holes on the inside of the top board? THis would have been the most likely mounting place for a flourescent bulb.
 
Since you can't play as a boss you most likely have the World Warrior board set. The marquee matches this as well. A board that uses the q-sound option will have a place for the audio cables.

I don't know about the marquee light, it certainly doesn't look original but the frame doesn't look original to me either. Are their any holes on the inside of the top board? THis would have been the most likely mounting place for a flourescent bulb.

Based on the layout of the eproms on the medium sized board of the 3 stack it's definitely a WW board. Champion edition has nothing in the low right slots relative to the shot of the board, the CE eproms are in the first empty slot above it and in the slots under the smallest board. The eproms are also in different spots on the left side in a CE. Yes, I've spent too much time looking at SFII boards. :)

More info on the games that supported qsound:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QSound#Selected_games_using_QSound
 
I dont see any extra holes where a flourescent light would have been. It seems to me that a fluorescent light would make the marquee a whole lot brighter.
Are you saying someone peeled the marquee and stuck it onto a piece of cardboard?? Thats dumb.
I guess I'll look for a CE board and marquee soon.
TK monkey did you say you have an extra marquee because this one does have the plexi-glass piece still.
 
Q Sound first appeared on what you could call "CPS 1.5" which include a small family of games like The Punisher and Saturday Night Slam Masters. They are basically CPS 1 boards housed in a plastic case. My dedicated Saturday Night Slam Masters is in a similar big blue cab.
 
^^I'd forgotten about those.

I dont see any extra holes where a flourescent light would have been. It seems to me that a fluorescent light would make the marquee a whole lot brighter.
Are you saying someone peeled the marquee and stuck it onto a piece of cardboard?? Thats dumb.
I guess I'll look for a CE board and marquee soon.
TK monkey did you say you have an extra marquee because this one does have the plexi-glass piece still.

Could be someone found a peel and stick marquee for WW (I have no idea if they existed for WW, I'm fairly sure they didn't) and put it on cardboard, could be someone cut down something else that had the SF logo that big printed on cardboard.

{PERSONAL THEORY}I think the peel & stick marquees for champion edition were limited run things for early conversion kits sent by capcom. The marquees for the dedicated champion edition machines were screen printed on plexi/lexan, I have two different types of peel & stick marquee, one of which I know to be part of the artwork set for a very early type of CE conversion kit (yellow/black instead of white/black coloring, some other color differences). The other is a dark grey/black, I'm guessing once peeled off and stuck to a blank piece of plexi/lexan/whatever is the normal translucent static coloring black/white. Both pieces are NOS and I haven't peeled them, as I haven't finished scanning them, but they're on backing similar to other adhesive products and they're definitely not translite or printed plexi. It makes sense that they would have been made available with the early conversion kits so operators could just peel & stick over a clear piece of marquee plexi they might have before the more complicated to produce art was out there with the dedicated cabinets. Just a function of trying to get the new product out there earning money as interest in SFII may have been waning in the fastest way possible. Given that I'm almost positive it was only done for CE conversion kits, I doubt the peel & stick was done with the original World Warrior marquees.{/THEORY}

Way too much rambling on my part, but I've seen a bunch of different CE art at this point so I've had some ideas knocking around about it.

As far as a champion edition marquee goes, I don't remember if the big blues were a different size of marquee or not (looks standard sized from the picture) you might want to measure to be sure. The ones on ebay for the 20" dedicated machines are about 7.5" x 25", I think the ones for the z-cut 25" units were larger. As i haven't finished scanning them, neither of the pieces I have are for sale at the moment, but normal CE print on plexi marquees can be had on ebay for 15 or 20 bucks in real nice shape. I know MilitiaMan still has a ton of artwork from a raid he did a while back, he's who I got my yellow/black set from and he's been a great guy to deal with. Pretty sure he's got the yellow/black marquee and bezel still for sale if you're curious what I mean by the extra colors. He had 2 sets and I bought a set and the 2nd cpo so I could make sure to get the best available to be scanned. If someone picks up the marquee/bezel and wants the other cpo, the spare may be fore sale.
 
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All right Im getting confused here. Right now I believe I have an original SF2 CE that someone put a WW board and marquee in. How is the cab an original CE with Q sound if the CE board doesnt support Q sound? Did some of the CE's have Q sound and some didnt? Thanks for the help all. This is only my second Arcade and my first Jamma cab. Thanks again.
 
As far as I know SFII CE was not a q-sound machine. There were many renditions of SFII. Later versions were the ones that incorporated the q-sound option. I'd be willing to bet that your cab was converted to a CPSII board at some point, q-sound and all, and then converted to the WW board due to a failure of the CPSII board and having the WW board available. Operators did what they had to in order to make sure machines were up and running in order to make money.
 
So I have a WW marquee, WW board, CE monitor overlay, and a Q sound decal. This is one crazy mixed up machine!!
Can anyone tell which version of SF2 the control panel overlay indicates?

So I can pretty much pick any SF 2 I want and make a dedicated cabinet with it? If the cab says Q sound I want to have Q sound. What would you guys do?
 
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The CPO looks to me to be from a SFII CE kit. Open the control panel and look at the underside. Are there any extra holes, possibly that are filled?

Dedicated - this word can have a few different meanings. I'd say that you can install any one board, get the matching artwork and the machine is now dedicated to that game. If your goal is to restore the game to its original configuration you will need to spend some more time researching.
 
The CPO looks to me to be from a SFII CE kit. Open the control panel and look at the underside. Are there any extra holes, possibly that are filled?

Dedicated - this word can have a few different meanings. I'd say that you can install any one board, get the matching artwork and the machine is now dedicated to that game. If your goal is to restore the game to its original configuration you will need to spend some more time researching.

Definitely not the CPO from a CE kit:

http://www.mamemarquees.com/streetf...p-1402.html?osCsid=k4gfjh796rhpmaknkevvgjm5b4

Not sure what the CPO was, I can try to hunt it down through the list on the wikipedia entry I posted earlier, don't have the time for it at the moment. At the least the Q-sound decal is original to the machine, those were made for the q-sound games. The dedicated SFIICE's were in 19" monitor generic dynamo cabs or in the big red z-cut 25" monitor cabs made by 3 Koam. 1993 on the stickers is a good start, SFIICE came out in 92, I'll try to do some digging when I get home tonight. As far as what you should put in it, go with whatever out of the q-sound supported games (as listed in the link and the couple extras SuperGunGuru pointed out) is your favorite. It'll keep your interest for longer, for sure, unless you're just trying to put it back to original and sell it.

*e* and as far as the sideart goes, yes that's the design for the sideart on SFIICE cabs. Those are repro, NOS ones are near impossible to find. If you do go CE with it (given that it's not a q-sound game i'm guessing you won't) and want sideart, don't get ink jet printed (the listing doesn't specify what type of print it is other than "high quality"), it looks terrible. I got a set from someone on ebay (their seller id sounds really familiar, but it might be because I've gotten other stuff from them) which was inkjet and it looked horrible, I wound up returning it to the guy. As a result, I don't touch anything art wise on ebay that doesn't have a picture of the actual product.
 
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I really appreciate your help. I want to go with what it was originally from the factory. I want to keep this game. Street Fighter Alpha would be nice as well as Super SF2. I think I like Alpha 3 the best.
 
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I really appreciate your help. I want to go with what it was originally from the factory. I want to keep this game. Street Fighter Alpha would be nice as well as Super SF2. I think I like Alpha 3 the best.

Go with Alpha 3. You won't be dissapointed. I had one for a while. I wish it had been in a big blue.

Make sure you get the "A" motherboard along with the game ("B" board).

I've seen them go for about $125 or so. Put up a thread in the want to buy section. Someone might have one they're willing to part with. Ebay is a little expensive for those cps2 boards right now and there's not a big selection.


Although, this one is at $116 shipped right now at the current bid. You might be able to snag that one for not much more. :)

http://cgi.ebay.com/STREET-FIGHTER-...emQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2558e7303b
 
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