JB Weld

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on my TAF, the welds have been broken on the holder for the solenoid on the thing kickout/scoop for some time, it appears. someone previously "fixed" this by wrapping electrical tape very tightly around it. sigh. in the attached picture (not of my machine - i'm not at home right now), it's the red-circled welds (and their counterparts on the other side) that are broken, so that the back/top/bottom section of the solenoid holder comes right off (the sides are attached to the scoop separately, so are fine).

i'm wondering if JB Weld would be sufficient to hold this, or if there will be too much shaking/torque applied as the solenoid fires over and over to be reliable?
 

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actually, i found this pic on my laptop from my teardown of a couple of weeks ago of the one that's in my machine. not from the same angle, so you can't see the broken welds, but you can see the electrical tape "fix"...
 

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I really doubt JB weld would hold there.

Best bet is to either get it re-welded, or maybe rivet on some angle stock on top of the welds.

-Hans
 
I really doubt JB weld would hold there.

Best bet is to either get it re-welded, or maybe rivet on some angle stock on top of the welds.

-Hans

Welding is always the best bet but JB weld doesn't deserve to be discredited so fast either. Ask my wife about the little amount that still sits on our kitchen table 6 years later :)
 
Isn't that metal zinc plated for rust protection? I could be wrong but I don't think JB weld bonds to zinc? Maybe there is a version that does or maybe I'm full of it, but I remember trying to bond a zinc plated washer to something and it didn't stick to the washer at all.
 
yeah, i'm tempted to just try it and see. i've had some fairly good luck with JB Weld before, but never quite in a place which would get so much force applied (i've watched that solenoid kick before, and it's pretty powerful, which *has* to shake that housing pretty seriously!).

if it doesn't work, the idea of some angle brackets is appealing. all i'd have to do is drill some holes in the existing metal, and run some short bolts with lock nuts on the other side, and i think that'd hold well.

ETA: i guess if it's zinc-plated and doesn't work i'll find out soon enough :). but i thought JB Weld worked on zinc anyway?
 
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JB Weld is great for tin...that's about where it ends.

Call some metal fab shops up, I'm sure one would quickly hit it for you with a spot welder or TIG for very little.
 
Id bet a big mac that JB weld would hold that. Ive used it on worse places with mixed results. Usually as a temp fix till a part arrives. I wouldnt send a game out like that but for testing reasons we might.
 
on my TAF, the welds have been broken on the holder for the solenoid on the thing kickout/scoop for some time, it appears. someone previously "fixed" this by wrapping electrical tape very tightly around it. sigh. in the attached picture (not of my machine - i'm not at home right now), it's the red-circled welds (and their counterparts on the other side) that are broken, so that the back/top/bottom section of the solenoid holder comes right off (the sides are attached to the scoop separately, so are fine).

i'm wondering if JB Weld would be sufficient to hold this, or if there will be too much shaking/torque applied as the solenoid fires over and over to be reliable?



TIG weld it and never worry about it again.
(If you feel like dropping it in the mail I can TIG weld it for you.)
 
Id bet a big mac that JB weld would hold that.

How long? Forever? I'll collect that big mac eventually ;)

I would just weld it but I have easy access to welding equipment. Buying the "new and improved" version also seems like a good idea on a high dollar machine.

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If I were going to JB weld it I would probably use a couple of small L pieces as well to strengthen it. It will hold for a while. Maybe a long while. If you're going to rig it you might as well rig it proper :)
 
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i'm going with the JB Weld for now - put it on with clamps tonight, will see tomorrow how it holds. then i'll just see how long it lasts. thing is, if it breaks, then i'll go with a proper weld. if it holds, i save myself the time, trouble, and cost of getting it welded (i don't have my own welding equipment, nor the ability :)).

i see no reason to buy a completely new one when a weld will be cheaper and the rest of the assembly is fine.
 
How long? Forever? I'll collect that big mac eventually ;)

I would just weld it but I have easy access to welding equipment. Buying the "new and improved" version also seems like a good idea on a high dollar machine.

EDIT:
If I were going to JB weld it I would probably use a couple of small L pieces as well to strengthen it. It will hold for a while. Maybe a long while. If you're going to rig it you might as well rig it proper :)

And I would owe you one eventually...:)
 
i'm going with the JB Weld for now - put it on with clamps tonight, will see tomorrow how it holds. then i'll just see how long it lasts. thing is, if it breaks, then i'll go with a proper weld. if it holds, i save myself the time, trouble, and cost of getting it welded (i don't have my own welding equipment, nor the ability :)).

i see no reason to buy a completely new one when a weld will be cheaper and the rest of the assembly is fine.

Do a test for everyone and see how long it works...
 
Do a test for everyone and see how long it works...

i forgot to follow up on this. the JB Weld only held for about 10 days. i put some C-clamps on it until i can find a local welder that will do the small job for a reasonable amount. problem is, at least around here, there are few if any mom & pop welding shops - they seem to be all big shops and not really interested in small jobs. but i have a few more places to call to check. i have a JP part that needs welding too, so i can kill two birds with one welded stone...
 
Did you use just JB Weld alone, or with some metal brackets as Lindsey suggested?

alone. i wanted to see first if it would hold by itself first. if i can't find a good weld shop (decently priced), i'll try some brackets - i have some small angle brackets that i think would work OK - just drill holes through and bolt/lock-nut them in.
 
You may not want to sent your part to someone you don't know,but
I will tig weld it for free if you want to mail it to me.

Jim
 
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