JAMMA SNES systems

I did put one of the ones i made into a super system, with the SNES arcade pads, and a flash cart with hundreds of games :)

Although i do own around 500 or so snes games, opening up the cab to switch was a bear.
 
Here are my videos, they're crap because I don't have even semi-decent hardware or software, but you can see how it works.

(stop watching at 3:11... I can't edit 3GP videos in movie maker so I couldn't trim it)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OvkPCDS674

Showing off Akumajou Dracula X:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg8nLWoj8NU

So how about all those people who made me make videos, let's see those orders LOL. :p



Just want to say i know airthrow in person, he's a standup guy...Good luck with your sale bro!

Thanks man, I appreciate it!
 
I think this cool but I have a question?


Why wouldn't you just run a modded xbox running all the SNES games available? You could even use Hyperspin for the front end if you use a pc with it!

Can you flash a SNES and load it up and if you did how would you change games in the menu?

Just thinking out loud I want a NES system not sure How I want to do it.

The biggest difference I see would be in the roms and using the SNES has a hard drive.

I'm not sure how good the roms are that are out there for SNES?


Thanks
 
I think this cool but I have a question?


Why wouldn't you just run a modded xbox running all the SNES games available? You could even use Hyperspin for the front end if you use a pc with it!

Because a modded xbox will be emulated, which is never 100% accurate, a JAMMA SNES will have the absolute best possible video quality for SNES games. There is literally no way to improve on it, anything NOT analog RGB is a downgrade in picture quality because the SNES is analog RGB natively.

Can you flash a SNES and load it up and if you did how would you change games in the menu?

If you have a flash cart it would be exactly the same as how it would work on a flash cart in an SNES connected to a TV.

Just thinking out loud I want a NES system not sure How I want to do it.

NES systems are not RGB, so to get them to work on an arcade cabinet you have to sacrifice the GPU from a playchoice 10 game and hack the hell out of it to work with an NES. You are looking at minimum $250-300 for a JAMMA NES considering the parts and labor. NES is actually a system it makes sense to just use a modded JAMMA xbox on, because when you use the playchoice GPU the palettes will actually be slightly off because they're not exactly right for NES, so it's not the purest form of NES video anyway, which will always be composite AV. But modded xbox/emu is inferior in video quality to ANY system that is native RGB.

edit: Actually some of the super rare Japan-only Famicom systems can display RGB, I don't know how "true" their pallettes are compared to the NES systems we got here.
 
Besides the input lag and other various problems with emulation, you wouldnt want to do a hacked xbox 1 to jamma for emulated games like nes/snes/gen etc because the lowest resolution an XBOX will do is 480i. Everything is interpolated, filtered, etc.

For those systems you want the lo-res 15khz RGB.

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And what i mean by this is you want the NON interlaced 15khz RGB. In general, you want the system you are emulating, to at least support the same video modes as the original system.

Resolutions

Progressive: 256 × 224, 512 × 224, 256 × 239, 512 × 239
Interlaced: 512 × 448, 512 × 478

And for nes, 256x224

NOT the xbox 1 640x480p/i

Regarding the jamma nes: Close.

The PPU on the playchoice and some VS games are almost 100% identical...

Quoting from Quietust over at nesdev,

"The PlayChoice-10 does use the same palette, mostly - it is missing the grays at $1D/$2D/$3D, and color emphasis works completely differently, forcing each channel to maximum intensity (which can cause problems in some games which set all 3 bits, expecting to dim the screen by 25% but instead resulting in a solid white screen)."




The amount of times you would ever run into that would close to never.

Any perceived difference in color is due to NTSC's poor representation of that color, not because the palette is different.

RGB modding a nes isnt as hard as people make it out to be, nor as expensive.

yes you need that PPU, but acquiring one from a broken pc10, or even VS tennis (which will give you 2 of them btw) is ~50 or less.

-Desolder the old ppu
-Put in a socket, lift the RGB legs
-Put in PC10 ppu
-Buy/BUILD RGB amp and run RGB lines through it
-Close nes and enjoy

If you want them to work with a USB powerpak, depending on your nes revision, some work is needed.

Yes the Sharp Titler's PPU's palette is a little dif from PC10/nes, and overall more expensive than modding one yourself.
 
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Cool info, thanks for the corrections. I wasn't saying I would sell an RGB NES, just saying I have never seen one for less than $250...and that's just for a regular NES, not one even hooked up to JAMMA which adds costs as well.
 
Could you make me a JAMMA Sega Genesis instead?
I'm too lazy to make one right now :D
 
Completely agree. They sell for that easy, and i bet you would have a market for one, especially if you used the PC10's connector (dual screen or single monitor or even unisystem) and RGB inverter (in the cases that the monitors didnt let you switch) for drop in replacement of NES to pc10.

Then you have a playchoice cabinet, with NES +powerpak on real hardware and RGB.

That what i put in my 2nd red tent :)
 
I have a NES someone modded to remove the RF output and added composite plugs in the back....looks great. *shrug* not sure why anyone would be that concerned witha minor loss in color for this application. Its not like going to LCD or anything. I'd love to have a snes like this but I can't justify the expense....165$ gets me most Jamma or cps2!boards that I really want. Any interest on converting a system someone already has on hand vs you sourcing them?
 
Its not just color, its clarity. NTSC is 480i, blurry and noisy.

RGB is VASTLY improved over composite.

Its true that some later systems like 3do, got pretty darn good with quality with SVIDEO, but using RGB is still a decent improvement.

Systems like nes/snes get a huge bump.

The biggest bump of all IMO comes from genesis, they used a crappy ntsc encoder, but a GREAT RGB chip. RGB gen is like a different system.

In the end it comes down to preference and how picky someone is, but for people who are picky, they wont be upset when they hook up the SNES2jamma systems

Also, not sure what you mean by "going to LCD or anything" but believe it or not, color representation on LCD tvs are quite poor still compared to nice CRTS. Aside from color accuracy, being multisync, having better contrast, and no latency or blur makes CRTs IDEAL for gaming.

The move to flat panels in general were about convenience and "good enough" quality, not because the quality was BETTER. Crts are just insanely inconvenient and require tons of calibration to be "PERFECT".
 
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This is the first time I'm seeing this! This really truely is awesome!!!

Might consider it for the GF, since shes not a mortal kombat type, HAHA.

How many do you have left?
 
Could you make me a JAMMA Sega Genesis instead?
I'm too lazy to make one right now :D

Yes I can, and it is the same price as a SNES, but I can only do 3-button support on Genesis systems. PM me if you're ready to order one. :)

edit: Actually I have one 75% complete already, so I can be done in a flash if you are ready to order.
 
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I have a NES someone modded to remove the RF output and added composite plugs in the back....looks great. *shrug* not sure why anyone would be that concerned witha minor loss in color for this application. Its not like going to LCD or anything. I'd love to have a snes like this but I can't justify the expense....165$ gets me most Jamma or cps2!boards that I really want. Any interest on converting a system someone already has on hand vs you sourcing them?

I've had people ask me this before, and there are a few problems with doing this as a service. The reason it is so expensive is each system takes me between 8-10 hours to do (mostly because I don't have much space to work with and organize my tools), the process is very similar to making a supergun, but more difficult. So the price is only so high because I get very little sleep the last few weeks LOL not because SNES systems are that expensive. (If you consider how long it takes me to make each, go to the post office, and minus all the parts, the hourly profit really isn't much.)

I can find consoles easily, I do have a big problem finding SNES controllers, so I could accept partial trade-ins for SNES pads.
This is the first time I'm seeing this! This really truely is awesome!!!

Might consider it for the GF, since shes not a mortal kombat type, HAHA.

How many do you have left?

I have 3 systems in my room lying around waiting for orders to be converted, so PM me if you're ready and we'll arrange an order. I can always get more anyway.
 
Oh man I want this so bad! :D I hope you're still doing this once I have a few more funds built up after buying a 3DS. I would have never bought it if I had seen this topic LOL!
 
SNES shipped out to alejandromad, get in while the gettin's good guys.


I also can accept trades for game stuff, home consoles or arcade PCBs and Motherboards, I'm into:

Neo Geo (Home or MVS) stuff
CPS2
CPS3
Naomi
Taito F3
STV
Arcade sticks and parts

Console:
PC Engine/turbo duo, Megadrive/Genesis, Saturn

Pretty open to anything for full or partial trades, just make me an offer. :)
 
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I don't have a use for this but I wanted to just say "Great work". Really cool what you are doing.

This system will play Super Famicom games too?
 
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