Even better ones are when it is a vague ad in the first place and you call them and they say "It doesn't work but it only needs the connectors cleaned, I have done this every time and it works afterwords" and yet you do not do it this time hmmmm I think not. Last set of games I went and seen and bought just because it was cheap, 2 dead altogether and one needed a power switch. At least he did not want a grand for them 

