Is that the right [Atari] book? [Curt's & Marty's Book]

Is that the right [Atari] book?

I that the right book?

I only see Curt Vendel and Martin Goldberg as being involved?

At any rate, thanks for the heads up! :beerchug:

[edit]Did you add "competing" after your initial post or am I imagining things here???
 
[edit]Did you add "competing" after your initial post or am I imagining things here???

You must have missed it - I didn't edit. This isn't Scott's book, but it was announced prior to him announcing his. Too bad they couldn't have worked together.
 
Guess my eye site is worse than I thought. :)

Curt is a stickler for details so I can't *wait* to get my hands on this... there's just something about the smell of paper and ink and feeling a book in your hands. :D Thanks again for the headsup.
 
You must have missed it - I didn't edit. This isn't Scott's book, but it was announced prior to him announcing his. Too bad they couldn't have worked together.

Why?

At the very least, this book will be accessible to some of us.

ArcadeMaze!
 

I'm sure I have already detailed this a dozen times. It's not a competing book. My 'Book' is an iOS based VISUAL (think photo's, drawings and actual scanned documents) history with a video documentary. Curt's book is a text based book printed on paper with some photos. They COMPLEMENT each other. My product is a multimedia presentation, not a traditional 'book'.

While I will eventually make a print version, you will lose the interactive aspects and the video documentary and it will cost 5X more.
 
It's not a competing book. My 'Book' is an iOS based VISUAL (think photo's, drawings and actual scanned documents) history with a video documentary.

Plus you purchased your collection from Atari, instead of stealing it out of their dumpsters :)

I can understand why you want to go the ibook route first. Hopefully you'll consider a printed version if sales warrant it. For that, I would suggest talking with Leonard Herman (www.rolentapress.com). He's been involved with releasing several of his own books, as well as those for Ralph Baer and Bill Kunkle, so maybe using him might be less expensive.
 
Did anyone else catch the kickstarter book is "Volume 1" start to 1984?
I assume they'll be a "Volume 2" at some point. Seems wierd to me.

The original poster I think said his was going to be through the 90's.


Mr. CAST
 
Plus you purchased your collection from Atari, instead of stealing it out of their dumpsters :)

That's a pretty damn big missconception. That's how Curt initially got started (by rescuing materials during the shut down of Atari Corporation), the source of our book and materials are not from a dumpster. The bulk of our materials and documentation were donated directly by ex-Atari employees or purchased from them. In fact in the past few years we've had such incredible donations, cooperation, and input from these individuals, we have far more material than can ever fit in to a single book. Likewise we've spent a lot of money flying around to directly interview many of these people.

Did anyone else catch the kickstarter book is "Volume 1" start to 1984?
I assume they'll be a "Volume 2" at some point. Seems wierd to me.

The original poster I think said his was going to be through the 90's.


Mr. CAST

I'm not sure what's wierd about it. This book is entitled Atari Inc: Business is Fun and covers the first Atari, Atari Inc. There were three different Atari's, Atari Inc. (1972-1974), Atari Corporation (1984-1996) and Atari Games (1984-2003). Hence three different books. Our Atari Inc. book is about 600 pages as it is.


Scott's great book is primarily a coffee table picture book about Atari Inc.'s Coin Division and Atari Games, ours is primarily text (with sections of images) and is about the untold stories and happenings (and the clearing up of long held myths) in Coin and Consumer (and all the other divisions) of Atari Inc. The two compliment each other.
 
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That's a pretty damn big missconception. That's how Curt initially got started (by rescuing materials during the shut down of Atari Corporation), the source of our book and materials are not from a dumpster.

So illegally trespassing onto private property and stealing items is called "rescuing" now? Or "salvaging", as it's called from your own press release:

"In the 1980's, Vendel had begun collecting Atari products, engineering logs, schematics, drawings, and technical materials from former Atari employees - even making trips to Atari's buildings in California to salvage Atari's valuable history from its dumpsters."

I seriously doubt he was collecting anything other than video games in the 1980s! And you just stated he didn't get his start until his infamous dumpster diving until the late 90s, which is when Atari Corp shut down. Sheesh, you can't even seem to get your own history right.

Unless there's been some major changes in the laws in all 50 states recently, what you both are calling "rescuing" and "salvaging" is still called theft, and I'm sure any judge would be glad clear up your misconceptions for you. Do you still want to claim your book doesn't contain any information that came from Atari's dumpsters?


Likewise we've spent a lot of money flying around to directly interview many of these people.

So the kickstarter money is to recoup your investment? Most authors recoup their investment when they sell their books. If the book is already done, then what's the $11,508 for?
 
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Life would be so much more enjoyable if we all just played our games, worked on our games, and enjoyed the hobby. Way too many internet toughguys just want to get on here and argue and just more or less be total dickheads. GO work on a game, or play a game and spend less time pissing in someone's cheerios.
 
Life would be so much more enjoyable if we all just played our games, worked on our games, and enjoyed the hobby. Way too many internet toughguys just want to get on here and argue and just more or less be total dickheads. GO work on a game, or play a game and spend less time pissing in someone's cheerios.

Best post ever. I may have finally found a good signature quote...
 
None of my business and I have nothing to do with this fight at all, but a quick bit of googling reveals that

"Stealing trash is not illegal. The Supreme Court ruled in 1988 that once an item is left for trash pickup, there is no expectation of privacy or continued ownership."

Trespassing may or may not apply... thats a whole different kettle of fish...

just sayin...
/Tim
 
You're right, but in this regard, we're not talking about trash cans put out on public streets and alleys. This dumpster was on private property, and possibly behind a locked fence, thus it was still very much Atari's property. And since he was there when nobody was around, either on the weekend or at night, he never had permission from them to be there after-hours, let alone permission to take anything.
 
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