Is that Vector Labs Multi-Sega vector kit an all-in-1 kit or do you need a board to slap it on to?
Is Star Trek a Fun Game??
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jkoolpe
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Jon nails it mostly, although I'd disagree that Tac/Scan is unplayable on the multikit. I play it all of the time in sideways orientation, and it is actually pretty playable. Sure, the correct orientation would be better, but you can play it sideways and get pretty far...I think I managed in the 300K for some of my better scores 
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ST has a special appeal for me...I am a fan of the original series to be sure, and I did enjoy the later incarnations mostly (except for Voyager and the TNG movies which have been mediocre to downright lousy, but that's another discussion ). But that's one main reason why I really wanted one of these, plus I just love color vector graphics period...
I do pretty much only look at the radar, but the game does get pretty challenging, particularly when you get to the levels where the Klingons turn suicidal almost immediately. I'm told there is a technique to using the photons to better defend against this, but I have yet to master it. Oh yeah, and try not to dock with the space stations if you can as you get a significantly larger bonus at the end of each round if the station has not been utilized .
It's a fast game with great sound...even if the voices are not really very close to the original cast members. Still, the start up sounds are the best!
And of course having the Sega multikit is a must...I think I enjoy Zektor the most of the Sega vector games actually, with Star Trek coming in at second place. Space Fury is fun, too, but gets a bit too frenetic sometimes and a bit one-dimensional (i.e. you just blast and blast and zip around which is fun, but again, a bit tedious after awhile).
I can't wait to get the soon-to-be-available mulitisound card to add on to VectorLabs new multikit! Clay's kit was terrific and kept me mostly happy for many years, but to now have sound in all of the games finally will be that much sweeter...
Bottom line for me: ST is a definite good game to have...certainly not as great as a some of its color vector cousins (Tempest or Star Wars or Quantum come to mind), but still worthwhile if you have the mulitkit and of course if you can keep it working ...
.ST has a special appeal for me...I am a fan of the original series to be sure, and I did enjoy the later incarnations mostly (except for Voyager and the TNG movies which have been mediocre to downright lousy, but that's another discussion
). But that's one main reason why I really wanted one of these, plus I just love color vector graphics period...I do pretty much only look at the radar, but the game does get pretty challenging, particularly when you get to the levels where the Klingons turn suicidal almost immediately. I'm told there is a technique to using the photons to better defend against this, but I have yet to master it. Oh yeah, and try not to dock with the space stations if you can as you get a significantly larger bonus at the end of each round if the station has not been utilized
.It's a fast game with great sound...even if the voices are not really very close to the original cast members. Still, the start up sounds are the best!
And of course having the Sega multikit is a must...I think I enjoy Zektor the most of the Sega vector games actually, with Star Trek coming in at second place. Space Fury is fun, too, but gets a bit too frenetic sometimes and a bit one-dimensional (i.e. you just blast and blast and zip around which is fun, but again, a bit tedious after awhile).
I can't wait to get the soon-to-be-available mulitisound card to add on to VectorLabs new multikit! Clay's kit was terrific and kept me mostly happy for many years, but to now have sound in all of the games finally will be that much sweeter...
Bottom line for me: ST is a definite good game to have...certainly not as great as a some of its color vector cousins (Tempest or Star Wars or Quantum come to mind), but still worthwhile if you have the mulitkit and of course if you can keep it working
...Robotron Jon
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You need a sega CPU board for it.
I can send you the install guide if you want to take a look at how it's done.
I think Zektor and Star Trek were the best of these games.
copious
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Go with a Space Fury you wont be disappointed. You get Awsome voices, Incredible monitor and a fun challenging game.
Here's something you don't see every day... Star Trek in a Asteroids Deluxe cabinet.
Yep, this one is mine. The bottom portion of the screen over the asteroid field actually looks really cool, sorry the picture isn't better.
I've had the captains chair version too and sold it after awhile. It was really nice, but took up too much space in my room. I too have the Sega Multigame in my Star Trek. Currently it's Clay's kit but I have the Vector Labs ready to go in when the sound card makes its debut.
If you want the higher scores, you need to play the radar screen. The bottom graphics are cool, but they're distracting if you're going for the high scores.
Personally, I love it and will keep it as long as I can keep it running.
Tom
Yep, this one is mine. The bottom portion of the screen over the asteroid field actually looks really cool, sorry the picture isn't better.
I've had the captains chair version too and sold it after awhile. It was really nice, but took up too much space in my room. I too have the Sega Multigame in my Star Trek. Currently it's Clay's kit but I have the Vector Labs ready to go in when the sound card makes its debut.
If you want the higher scores, you need to play the radar screen. The bottom graphics are cool, but they're distracting if you're going for the high scores.
Personally, I love it and will keep it as long as I can keep it running.
Tom
D_Harris
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I was a "Trekkie" who hit all the Creation conventions in the 80s, and got signatures from all but the main three cast members.(I guess they were just too popular to sign autographs).
And a true Trekkie can give you the plot for any episode named.(Or give you the episode name if told the plot).
Anyway, the original cast members(Lenard Nimoy and James Doohan) actually did lend their voices to the game from what I understand.
As for the game play, Star Trek is a spectator game. It's great to watch someone who has mastered the game because you are watching the "1st person" view screen. But if you are to become at least a great player yourself then looking at the 1st person view screen while you're playing is off limits, because a "birds-eye" view is necessary to see everything as it's happening.
I've held the world record on the game since '85 and only look at the "3rd person" screen.(I really would like to be able to watch someone else who is great at the game play it so that I can enjoy the 3D graphics too).
Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
And a true Trekkie can give you the plot for any episode named.(Or give you the episode name if told the plot).
Anyway, the original cast members(Lenard Nimoy and James Doohan) actually did lend their voices to the game from what I understand.
As for the game play, Star Trek is a spectator game. It's great to watch someone who has mastered the game because you are watching the "1st person" view screen. But if you are to become at least a great player yourself then looking at the 1st person view screen while you're playing is off limits, because a "birds-eye" view is necessary to see everything as it's happening.
I've held the world record on the game since '85 and only look at the "3rd person" screen.(I really would like to be able to watch someone else who is great at the game play it so that I can enjoy the 3D graphics too).
Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
I don't think you could play the multi in a cockpit.
Eliminator and Space Fury use the Photon and Warp buttons for L rotate and R rotate. Being mounted on the right-hand panel in the cockpit puts all the action on one hand and that won't work.
To be honest, on the upright, the Photon and Warp buttons are a little too far apart for me to use as left/right rotate comfortably. It's nice to be able to play all the games, but the control feel messes with me.
Sideways Tac Scan puts a crick in my neck.
Zektor? Holy Cow- this game is GREAT! Rotate with the spinner! Love it.
Star Trek- the only way I've EVER been able to play it is with the long range scanner. It just moves too fast for the viewscreen to be helpful.
Live long and prosper dudes.
Eliminator and Space Fury use the Photon and Warp buttons for L rotate and R rotate. Being mounted on the right-hand panel in the cockpit puts all the action on one hand and that won't work.
To be honest, on the upright, the Photon and Warp buttons are a little too far apart for me to use as left/right rotate comfortably. It's nice to be able to play all the games, but the control feel messes with me.
Sideways Tac Scan puts a crick in my neck.
Zektor? Holy Cow- this game is GREAT! Rotate with the spinner! Love it.
Star Trek- the only way I've EVER been able to play it is with the long range scanner. It just moves too fast for the viewscreen to be helpful.
Live long and prosper dudes.
SaminVA
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Not so, with the Vector Labs SEGA multigame. The spinner is now used to turn the ships on all the games,no buttons needed to rotate the ships in Eliminator and Space Fury . The only problem with putting it in the cockpit is the fact the cockpit doesn't have a player 2 button so you would need to add a player 2 button to switch between games but Mike stated in another thread if you wanted to install the kit in a cockpit to let him know as he was working on a fix.
Here's what he said.
"Also there will be an fix available for those that have the Star Trek Captain's Chair.
As you are aware there is no 2 player button. So to select games another button will be
used instead. I am working on this so anyone else who has a Captains chair should PM
me so I can keep track of who needs the fix. Mike"
I like the game -- very challenging and very frustrating for me.
It gets my adrenaline pumping more than any of my other games because it gets damned hard in a hurry.
I'm sure many will disagree but I like it more than Star Wars.
Color vector graphics are good, sound is good -- play is good. Obviously different people will have different opinions.
I too am waiting for the multi-sound board before buying the multigame kit (and waiting to come off my arcade hiatus before resuming more game work).
Jokes aside, the G08s are a bit touchy and I wish Chad still repaired them...
It gets my adrenaline pumping more than any of my other games because it gets damned hard in a hurry.
I'm sure many will disagree but I like it more than Star Wars.
Color vector graphics are good, sound is good -- play is good. Obviously different people will have different opinions.
I too am waiting for the multi-sound board before buying the multigame kit (and waiting to come off my arcade hiatus before resuming more game work).
Jokes aside, the G08s are a bit touchy and I wish Chad still repaired them...
ah- that sounds better.
I picked up a Clay Cowgill multi-sega from someone that dumped theirs after buying the Vector Labs one.
jkoolpe
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A true Trek fan can tell you the name, director, and writer of each episode from the very first frame of footage seen or first word of dialogue spoken .
BTW...if you are a fan of the original series and have not done so already, pick up the recently remastered Blu-Ray season sets for the show. The picture quality is nothing short of stunning, often more clarity then in today's new releases. And the sound is great in full 7.1 surround, plus they also replaced the special effects with newly computer-generated effects (in a tasteful and not overdone way). And if you don't like the new effects, you get the option of watching with the original effects on the fly. Well worth the coinage, even if you have previous DVD releases, IMHO.
So any tips on strategy for the suicide Klingons? I think you're supposed to let them come to you, and then fire off a photon at one of them so the resulting circle/explosion gets them all as they head at you from every direction. But again, I have yet to master this, assuming I have the right idea.
Fill us in!
My best scores are probably in the 600-700K range...I'm sure you've achieved far, far better scores...what is the actual world record?
Inquiring minds need to know...
Jon
.BTW...if you are a fan of the original series and have not done so already, pick up the recently remastered Blu-Ray season sets for the show. The picture quality is nothing short of stunning, often more clarity then in today's new releases. And the sound is great in full 7.1 surround, plus they also replaced the special effects with newly computer-generated effects (in a tasteful and not overdone way). And if you don't like the new effects, you get the option of watching with the original effects on the fly. Well worth the coinage, even if you have previous DVD releases, IMHO.
So any tips on strategy for the suicide Klingons? I think you're supposed to let them come to you, and then fire off a photon at one of them so the resulting circle/explosion gets them all as they head at you from every direction. But again, I have yet to master this, assuming I have the right idea.
Fill us in!
My best scores are probably in the 600-700K range...I'm sure you've achieved far, far better scores...what is the actual world record?
Inquiring minds need to know...
Jon
jkoolpe
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Sideways Tac Scan puts a crick in my neck.
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Just think of it as new challenge .
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Zektor? Holy Cow- this game is GREAT! Rotate with the spinner! Love it.
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FYI, original Zektors used a spinner...at least the ones I've played at CA Extreme did. There's a good chance there will be one at this year's show .
Jonathan
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Just think of it as new challenge
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Zektor? Holy Cow- this game is GREAT! Rotate with the spinner! Love it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
FYI, original Zektors used a spinner...at least the ones I've played at CA Extreme did. There's a good chance there will be one at this year's show
.Jonathan
My best scores are probably in the 600-700K range...I'm sure you've achieved far, far better scores...what is the actual world record?
Inquiring minds need to know...
Jon
Looks like its 123,467,525.
You're close
Robotron Jon
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I think my top score is 140k.
Need to practice I guess.
Need to practice I guess.
jkoolpe
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Ask D Harris above
This is a really awesome photo. It makes me want to take pics of my games from this angle.
ST really is a sweet looking game, and I play it several times every cax, but I agree with most here, I stare at the radar and feel like it would get old quick.
D_Harris
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Twelve hours.
If you can get good enough to marathon the game you'll get about 10 million points per hour.
Photon torpedo shot placement is key, and knowing how to draw them into the explosion area while you warp away.
And you need big hands that allow you to bridge the warp and fire buttons.
Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
Thanks. I was messing around, a while back, with a wide angle lens I had for my old camera.
Here are a few more:
Also, On what dip settings are you guys getting these points? I'm thinking Darren's was on Tournament settings, but how about you other guys?
D_Harris
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Actually I have the factory settings record and the tournament settings record.
If you look in the manual you will see both. StarTrek is the only game that I know of where the manual actually designates "Tournament" settings in addition to the default factory settings.
I don't have my manual here in front of me, but here are the dip switch settings from Crazy Kong: http://www.crazykong.com/dips/StarTrek.txt
Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York
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