Is it worth getting bootlegs repaired?

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Just that. I've got a CPS1 game that is obviously a conversion, but it ran perfectly, so I'd no reason to complain. Stored it for a while, went to play again and it's dead. All I can assume is that the windowed roms killed themselves as it never crossed my mind to cover the windows. Anyhow, I miss my game, and sourcing a legit one's not working out, so as I was asking, is it worth getting a boot repaired? Is it even considered okay to seek out repair services for a conversion game?
 
uhhh yeah, its your game you can do whatever the hell you want with it.

Fair enough, but equally important, what're the odds of finding someone who can repair a conversion? Or is it as simple as just a rom swap?
 
Fair enough, but equally important, what're the odds of finding someone who can repair a conversion? Or is it as simple as just a rom swap?


This depends on what the game is... Early bootlegs were sometimes just ROM swaps but Jamma era bootlegs were almost always completely different boards, usually assembled very cheaply.
 
What Capcom game is it?

Most conversions don't have a suicide battery on the 'C' board - you dont have a battery on your 'C' board do you?

I would separate the 3 board and re-assemble - could be poor contact (or corrosion) between the connectors - won't hurt anything to try.
 
What Capcom game is it?

Most conversions don't have a suicide battery on the 'C' board - you dont have a battery on your 'C' board do you?

I would separate the 3 board and re-assemble - could be poor contact (or corrosion) between the connectors - won't hurt anything to try.

Ghouls and Ghosts. I've disassembled and reassembled a dozen or more times. I'm really guessing it's the uncovered windowed roms, not sure what else could have happened, it's just been sitting around.
 
A conversion isn't really a bootleg. It's worth getting repaired, unlikely that the ROMS have been damaged by not having the window covered though.
 
A conversion isn't really a bootleg. It's worth getting repaired, unlikely that the ROMS have been damaged by not having the window covered though.

I was under the impression that if they weren't covered they could get partially erased. Learn something new every day! Guess I'm just down to seeing who repairs CPS1 games, getting a rough estimate and going from there!
 
I was under the impression that if they weren't covered they could get partially erased. Learn something new every day! Guess I'm just down to seeing who repairs CPS1 games, getting a rough estimate and going from there!

EPROMS can become corrupt if the windows are not covered up and they are exposed to UV light. It's rare, but it can happen. EPROMS also do go bad.

What makes you think it's the EPROMS though? Does it display a ROM error?
 
EPROMS can become corrupt if the windows are not covered up and they are exposed to UV light. It's rare, but it can happen. EPROMS also do go bad.

What makes you think it's the EPROMS though? Does it display a ROM error?

Lack of knowledge makes me think that, haha. It does NOTHING when plugged in, and again, I can't imagine what would have happened to it just sitting in a drawer most of the time..
 
Lack of knowledge makes me think that, haha. It does NOTHING when plugged in, and again, I can't imagine what would have happened to it just sitting in a drawer most of the time..

Check all your connections. If you've moved the game, it's possible something came loose.

Start with your power supply. Check to make sure you have the proper voltages.
 
To answer your original question, yes a CPS1 Ghouls N Ghosts conversion is definately worth fixing! Hope you get it working.

Might wanna re-seat all the socketed roms too
 
Check all your connections. If you've moved the game, it's possible something came loose.

Start with your power supply. Check to make sure you have the proper voltages.

I've done all that, I had a thread in technical and had lots of advice, but never got it working. All roms are getting proper voltages, each board is getting proper voltages.

To answer your original question, yes a CPS1 Ghouls N Ghosts conversion is definately worth fixing! Hope you get it working.

Might wanna re-seat all the socketed roms too

I haven't reseated the socketed roms, I'll try that!
 
Okay, if you're sure that that the +5, +12, -5 voltages are correct, then you can try to isolate the board that is causing the problem.

For this, you will need (or need to borrow) a known working boardset, say a Street Fighter II: Championship Edition or Street Fighter II: Hyper Fighting. Those boardsets will also have the proper "C" board for Ghouls N Ghosts.

You can try swapping out the known working "C" board first...
--if no love--
Then try the known working "A" board...

If neither of those will get your Ghouls N Ghosts to boot up, then you may have a problem with your "B" board. If you have a EPROM burner, you can read the EPROMs if you have the proper adapter - I think that the bulk of your EPROM's will be 27c4096's.

-MUEL
 
Okay, if you're sure that that the +5, +12, -5 voltages are correct, then you can try to isolate the board that is causing the problem.

For this, you will need (or need to borrow) a known working boardset, say a Street Fighter II: Championship Edition or Street Fighter II: Hyper Fighting. Those boardsets will also have the proper "C" board for Ghouls N Ghosts.

You can try swapping out the known working "C" board first...
--if no love--
Then try the known working "A" board...

If neither of those will get your Ghouls N Ghosts to boot up, then you may have a problem with your "B" board. If you have a EPROM burner, you can read the EPROMs if you have the proper adapter - I think that the bulk of your EPROM's will be 27c4096's.

-MUEL

Muel, thanks for the PM and a reply here. I sent you the "B" board number, if you could look at it and tell me what games/regions are compatible I'll see about picking up a cheap CPS1 board to try swapping out parts on!
 
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